I am now interested in sets and how they seem to correspond more easily with nature than more abstract arithmatic.I am learning that all arithmetic can be expressed as sets and so this could be a useful way of uniting different types of mathematical description that have best suited the description of particular aspects of nature.I think category theory rather than being an obscure dead end is probably a very useful descriptive tool, and I intend to learn more about it.Get some books and get some rudimentary knowledge so I can understand what other people are talking about.
I can see a potential correlation between the mathematical conundrum of different infinities with there being different facets and aspects of the entirety of reality. So the space-time continuum of the observer is a continuum which will relate to one of the infinities; the Object universe which is the material Source is made of separate parts not a continuum and so it will relate to another of the infinities and the historical imagined time line of former iterations could relate to another.I'm not saying they are infinite in themselves but that the different kinds of numbers might be best suited to different parts of the entirety of reality. The mathematical correlation is relevant as it could provide additional evidence for the validity of the explanatory construct.
I think I have the potential to offend far more people than just you.I'm not sure what particular aspect of what I have said or done causes offence to you. I hope you will not lump what I am trying to do in with what other people are doing just because I am now trying to understand their approaches.Seeing if they justify or are able to defend what they say, and the assumptions that are made, or seeing whether it is compatible with a holistic explanatory approach. I have no ill will towards you, I wish you well.
I think that protesting against what others are doing is counter productive to you, and me. It would be better to demonstrate the merits of your own work, which should be judged on its own merits not compared to something completely different,(which may or may not have merit in its own right).Showing someone else is mistaken will not show that your model is correct. IMHO There are many different ways of looking at and describing the same thing and not just a single and only black and white correct answer.That might not be what mathematicians want, or mathematically minded physicists but I (and you) have come from the biological sciences where complex interrelationships of parts and processes and entities are considered, things are less black and white.There are layers of complexity- the biochemistry- the physiology -the form- the function- the behaviour-the ecology . No one part is correct alone making the others incorrect.
Georgina Parry replied on Apr. 5, 2012 @ 07:39 GMT
It occurs to me that I didn't mention scale in relation to the different sets of number types and their potential infinities. This is how I see it. There is one set of numbers and potential infinity that belong to the image reality space-time continuum. Two sets of numbers belonging to the discreet Object reality. One set of those numbers and infinity is related to discreet entities, the number of things. The other is related to scale, the size of things. Then there is a set of numbers that will be related to the sequence of change, or iterations of the Object universe along an imagined time line, which is related to passage of time. That gives 4 different sets of numbers and 4 potential infinities.
Still thinking of scale: at the very tiniest discernible scale there are the tiniest fragments of what exists, which at present seem to be the quarks, and there is also continual change of position here. Every object in the universe has to be moving. They are at the cosmological scale in which everything else exists, so therefore the objects within must also be changing position too. The change of position of an object might be thought of as a wave like nature and the existence, the material part, a particle like nature.
I think that is a foundational wave-particle nature of every material -thing-in Object reality at all scales. That there is existence inseparable from change is not something super-natural but something that is -very natural-, to my mind. The most natural thing from which everything else we think of as nature ultimately gets its material form, place in the changing arrangement of nature, and observed appearance. Foundational -at all scales- and inseparable from nature itself. I don't think it is something given to nature but it is what nature is at its very heart IE Material (existence) and energy (change).
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Georgina Parry replied on Apr. 5, 2012 @ 13:08 GMT
Searching for the missing truthThis is the link to the plus math page where it talks about different infinities.
Another thought following on from the 4 sets of numbers and their infinities already mentioned, it occurs to me is that if multiverse ideas are included there could be further sets of numbers. Such as the set of numbers related to number of observer space-time realities within the universe and the set of numbers related to the space-time realities that -might- possibly be observed from the data available in the universe. Which though still associated with the Image reality are not the same as the set of numbers which describe the continuum itself. There might also be a set of numbers to describe the fractal perimeters of natural shapes. Each of those new sets will also have their potential infinities, giving 7 infinities so far. Multiple Object universes would make another set of numbers and 8 potential infinities but I don't know of any reason to assume that there is more than 1 Object universe.
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Georgina Parry replied on Apr. 6, 2012 @ 00:04 GMT
Think there ought to be another set which relates to scale in image reality. Which discounting multiple Object universes would make 8 sets with potential infinities still.Though the ideas of the observer's reality as a continuum is most likely incorrect as unlike the hypothetical external space-time continuum it is a product of the observer and the resolution of the image is going to have a limit. Making it discreet at the limit of resolution. So the numbers representing a continuum belong elsewhere, possibilities are the medium of space and the continuous motion of everything.
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Paul Reed replied on Apr. 6, 2012 @ 06:32 GMT
Georgina
Your post 5/4 07.39, second paragraph.
At some point there is indivisibility. There may be more than one type of elementary particle. This (these) are the only entities that one could properly label as ‘things’ because they persist over time in the same substantive form, what alters at each point in time being their spatial position, and possibly some other attribute(s). But, each spatial position, or whatever, is a different existent state (ie what constitutes reality as at that moment in time). The particle is not in two or more different positions (etc) at the same point in time.
So, this differentiation between ‘wave’ and ‘particle’ is ontologically incorrect. All we have is particle in different spatial location (&/or with different other attribute(s)). The preceding existent state (reality) no longer exists. The problem is that humans are viewing reality from a higher level of change than that which actually occurs, and are then trying to explain a reality which has change in it, ie it is actually more than one reality-a sequence thereof.
Paul
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Anonymous replied on Apr. 6, 2012 @ 11:18 GMT
Paul,
Two good points you've made. Re the framing of the mathematics, your post Apr. 5, 2012 @ 07:00 GMT: That ties in with something John Merryman and I discussed on another thread. The conundrum of there always being a frame in which the description is made, and that that is always to some extent a subjective choice influencing the output and the "picture" of reality that is produced.
Re The wave particle nature of all objects, your post Apr. 6, 2012 @ 06:32 GMT Another good point. I think it depends upon which aspect of its nature is considered. If a thing is just regarded as an unchanging object in space and its total universal motion discounted then it has a "particle" like nature. If its Object universal position in space over a large sequence of iterations, then its going to be a wave motion, if thought of in a certain way. Even if its a macroscopic object that appears stationary to a near observer, it will be moving due to changes of position at the astronomic scale.It is a wave motion that just has a very large wave length.
If the different scales of oscillation are considered it might be thought of as a wave, within a wave, within a wave, within a wave. Having different scales of wavelength. The rotation of the earth , orbit around the sun, rotation of the solar system and rotation of the galaxy, there might even be further motion of the galaxy within the universe.I think that's sort of interesting. It doesn't end at the macroscopic scale either but within the objects there is further motion occurring which is the vibration of atoms.The waves within waves within waves makes me think of the fractal patterns too which are spread over scale. That's saying to me that the relationship between things is not just spread within space at a single scales but involves interconnection across scales too. Lots of spiralling. Have a Happpy Easter.
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Georgina Parry replied on Apr. 6, 2012 @ 11:20 GMT
That Anonymous was me. Georgina
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Steve Dufourny replied on Apr. 6, 2012 @ 14:51 GMT
Georgina,
The english is not my first language, so I write in a very direct way. Your english is very well, my french also !
Well, in fact you repeat always the same, you are a good philosophe like James. But it is not sufficient for the real mathematical physics and their foundamentals. I find your line of thought like a good work of good words of good philosophy. That is all !
What I find surprising is the pseudo free will which is in fact a simple publicity for some theories, not rational furthermore.
I can understand that several systems must have their investmensts but frankly all this irony is a pure joke decreasing the general speed of evolution of this beautiful gaia.
An other thing Georgina, I am the only one here on this platform with a real innovatiion and real works. If people are jealous or not skilling to ponder this kind of works. Or if people wants to have my future recognizings, or this or that, it is not my probelm. My probelm is to continue to share my works and its generality and its equations. If people are too much occupied with their pseudo strategies,let me laugh and the words shall not cghange this evidence. If My Aguire and Mr Tegtmark want to be recognized really, so I invite them to respect my works because, them they are rational, my works. I have not seen here on this platfrom an other revolutionary work. So frankly the sharing of the cake, let me laugh in this line of reasoning.
My works, my equations, my theory are mine. And like I said you before, all roads do not go to Roma. If they think that a pseuo superimposing of pseudo maths is a strategy of imrpovement, let me laugh.I am nice Georgina, I have faith in this Universal Sphere, but my kindness has its limits.Mr Tegmark and Mr Aguire must rethought their strategy about my works and its revolutionary ideas, theories and equations. The perimeter Institute and FQXi and several others institutes are together, no Probelm. They can make what they want, it is not my probelm. I am understanding that my ideas are revoutionary, I am understanding also that it exists people loving monney, or systems wanting funds or even the future funds at short middle and long term.It is not my probelm, I will continue with faith and relevance. If people are not able or skilling to have the Nobel Prize, so why they want to steal the works of others. because this monney is an error implying bizare comportments. The sciences are better than this ironical stupidity.
If you want , I suggest that you learn french and after I can speak with you here if you want also.Or in spanish or latin or in dutch.
ps vanity of vanities, all is vanity, isn't it ?
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Georgina Parry replied on Apr. 7, 2012 @ 08:20 GMT
Dear Steve,
Unfortunately I still, after all of this time, do not know enough of what you are doing to fully understand. I gather you are a very good mathematician. I do not want to offend you by making wrong assumptions about your work. It is likely I would not be able to comprehend it. You do not have to be interested or like what I am doing.In English -it is not your cup of tea. I still think it is a worthwhile personal project even though it might not appeal to the more mathematical minded or those strongly focussed upon their own projects.Incidentally I consider your comparison of my "philosophy" to another "gentleman's" a damning by faint praises. It seems to me that he is doing something very different, which he feels very strongly about and considers the right approach to improve physics. Good on him. But its up to him to demonstrate that, not just show that other people are wrong or ignorant.
A lot of what I have said has been repetitive because I have wanted to see how certain ideas stand up to the criticism of others. Its one thing for me to think I've had a good idea but something quite different for someone else to agree with me. It is very hard to get any feedback and collaboration on the development of ideas. So the battering away with this is a good idea, in my not always so humble, opinion goes on in the vain hope that it will eventually make a difference.
The ideas have developed since I first came to FQXi , I have learnt from mistakes and got better at explaining what I mean and found that many of the ideas join up in ways I had not realised when I first came to FQXi.I can see that other scientific ideas have the potential to fit with the framework though as yet in their current forms they probably do not. There is potential. Perhaps because you find the English language more difficult to follow you have not noticed the progress that has been made.I certainly do not expect you to read everything that I write.
Its up to -you- to promote -your work- and show that it is revolutionary and useful.I do not know enough about what you are doing to know that it is so revolutionary that no other ideas can work with it and so all of them must be discarded as useless. That may be the case but I can not know that without understanding precisely what you are doing, which is probably beyond my comprehension.If you share your ideas then you can have a public record of the development of your intellectual property.Just having an idea is not enough, it has to be shared and noticed to be useful to mankind.
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Steve Dufourny replied on Apr. 7, 2012 @ 11:00 GMT
Always an ocean of pseudo polite words.
About my works???
Let me laugh Georgina. I shared my works in a total transparence.
That is why I see these stealers and these frustrated.
And what after a pseudo superimposing of pseuso maths .Yes of course and what after ; a cup of tea around a table between pseudo scientists.
Let me laugh.
gentlemen, me I am a real gentlemen , them, no .The respect you say, and what after a pseudo politeness???For pseudo recognizing.
If they think that they can steal all what they want, let me laugh.Already they cannot improve because they cannot understand it. So you imagine the irony for these pseudo. In fact they are not skilling simply. They are not Penrose or Hawking, so whay they try to be in the generalists. They cannot ponder works like mine. In fact they must study and learn, after perhaps they don't ponder these stupidities.
Just an idea ahahaha yes of course Mr Tegmark, yes of course Mr Aguire .Improvement ahahah yes of course, imrpovement of your strategy yes, that is all.Multiverses of what for what Mr Tegmark, for a nobel Prize , it is that.Ahahahah kill me !and still I will laugh to your face the gun on my head .
Spherically yours and EUREKA from Belgium and not from Holland or USA or Canada.
The diffaMations and calomnias shall not change this evidence. Kill me I REPEAT.
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James Putnam replied on Apr. 7, 2012 @ 18:36 GMT
Dear Georgina and Dear Steve,
"Well, in fact you repeat always the same, you are a good philosophe like James."
Readers please read Steve's messages as pertaining to his own thoughts. He cannot explain to you about my ideas. He can pretend to, but, he is limited by the problem of not even understanding what I am doing.
"...But its up to him to demonstrate that, not just show that other people are wrong or ignorant."
Readers, please ignore anything that Georgina says about what my ideas mean or what my behavior portrays.
James
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Anonymous replied on Apr. 8, 2012 @ 01:34 GMT
you have a job like the others? All this platform is a pure joke.I see like this!
FQXi is not foundamental, transparentr and integre.It is sad that fqxi is became a platform with a strategy.
I don't know you, James ,like the others, i don't know them personally, it is only virtual. Furthermore this platform is became a pure joke where the publicity and the pseudos teams are on the road of irrationalities. Frankly if you know Mr Tegmark and Mr Aguirre, tell them to be rational and foundamental and explain them that the pseudo superimposings of pseudo mathematical algebras shall not change the rationality. The meaning of the imrpovement is not the sister of the monney.
Demosntarte what ?? That all here you repeat always the same things for a pseudo recognizing. Change of hobby, I don't know me. Or learn the real scientists, but apparently people prefers to rest in their stupid line of reasoning full of vanity. Georgina and You are not me. Like Joy and friends are not me. Have you seen the evolution of FQXi since the begining. Frankly let me laugh !
James I have nothing against you or Georgina, I just speak like I see the things, simply!
Sad reality , sad human nature, sad sciences !
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James Putnam replied on Apr. 8, 2012 @ 02:08 GMT
Hi Steve,
"...Have you seen the evolution of FQXi since the begining. ..."
Yes I have. It evolved from accepting both professional and non-professional opinions in discussion to accepting both professional and non-professional opinions in discusion. You have had the opportunity to post your messages along with the others.
My opinions are different from your opinions. It is nothing personal. You have a theory about the universe that involves spheres. There are others here that include spheres in their analyses and conclusions. I think the discussions are great and read them to learn from others. My own ideas do not involve spheres. So, I have no reason to take anything away from you. I do wish you good health and good luck as always.
Remember always that the people here at FQXi.org have always been friendly to you.
James
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Paul Reed replied on Apr. 14, 2012 @ 09:31 GMT
Georgina
Re your post 6/4 11.18.
1 But there is a way out of the conundrum. Reality exists, for us. So whether it be mathematics, or any other representational device, it must correspond (framing is your phrase) with how reality occurs. There is objectivity within a valid closed system.
2 But ‘it’ is never unchanging. Apart from anything else, ‘it’ moves, ie sequentially occupies different spatial positions. Whether this is in a wave like motion, or whatever, is irrelevant. The motion is not a separate existent phenomenon, ie and then there is also the ‘it’. It’s just ‘it’ in different spatial positions.
Paul
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Georgina Parry replied on Apr. 15, 2012 @ 00:23 GMT
Paul,
I think it is more serious than picking THE right frame.I don't think any single kind of spatial frame will be adequate to describe all of the different aspects of the entirety of reality. Minkowski space-time works well for describing the observer's output reality imo. Paralleled spheres might work well for the spreading EM data from a source. (Einstein's light cone bit.) Newtonian space works for chaos theory. They can all work but non of those spatial frames would work well for all of the different aspects.
I don't know what specifically you are referring to in your next paragraph but I think it may be my talking about the hypothesised, unchanging fully existent (past, present and future) external space-time continuum. -That- is unchanging because it is only the observers perspective of it that alters. In such a Universe there is no free will, no self determination and no mercy, a redundant creator and redundant morality. Events are preordained to occur and will occur with no possibility of alteration of fate/destiny because they are already within the continuum.
The events are also never over as they persist within the continuum. The injured living rabbit who's flesh is being slowly consumed by maggots will not cease to suffer through death and recycling of its body, erasing its memories but will continue to exist within the continuum in agony. That sort of implication of the model is why I think it is an abomination, as well as being unnecessary to fully explain the observations that are made -and- incurring paradoxes which are an indication of its in-correctness.
I dislike the way Big Bang and the existence of the external space-time continuum is portrayed in the popular media as fact, as a great triumph of science over former ignorance, and likened to the biblical Creation. It sounds like this musical has bought into the popular portrayal- as something awesome and a magnificent fact, rather than an awesome mis-comprehension with disgusting implications.
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Paul Reed replied on Apr. 15, 2012 @ 08:12 GMT
Georgina
Frame was your word, I was linking it to my point about correspondence with reality. That is, a representational device of reality must be in accord with how reality occurs. In other words, for any given circumstance, there is only one correct (objective) way (‘frame’) to depict it (though probably the same representational device suffices for many circumstances-just the output will be different). Whether one representational device (eg mathematical model, or graphic, or sentence) could “explain the entirety of reality”, is doubtful, but a different issue.
My second paragraph referred to your comment (6/4 11.18) on my point re waves (6/4 06 32).
The space-time model is a flawed depiction of reality, because it does not correspond with how reality can occur for us, there is a mis-conceptualisation of what time constitutes. The point here being that we can only know reality as it occurs to us. Once one hypothesises outside that metaphysical boundary (but not for practical reasons) then ‘anything goes’, because there is no basis (reference) for proof. Put in simple language, I could just keep invoking the hypothesis that ‘it is all to do with little green men’. This is as logically valid as a hypothesis as to what is ‘really’ happening, as any other. It is just that, superficially, it appears stupid. We cannot know what occurs outside the constraints of our own existence.
Which brings me to Big Bang. From my understanding, there is reasonable evidence for this. That is, we have direct experience, which then enables the inference (indirect experience) that this occurred. It should be labelled as a hypothetical fact. However, the point I want to make here is to draw the distinction between hypothesising outwith our existence (crossing a metaphysical boundary) and hypothesising outwith our practical abilities to experience. The danger here being that as one constructs an abstraction that gets further and further away from confirmable direct experience, then it could inadvertently crosses the metaphysical boundary. But the simple fact is that we experience something. And that something existed before our ability to experience it evolved. On present evidence, the hypothesis that there was a ‘big bang’ seems reasonable, but of course, that just leads to the next question, what was it that went ‘bang’ and why.
Paul
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Georgina Parry replied on Apr. 15, 2012 @ 22:34 GMT
Paul,
Frame was the word I used. It is the setting for a description, not the kernel of the event itself which is the change in a relationship/ relationships. An event might be described using many different observer reference frames or even different kinds of space. If I wish to show you how to get somewhere I can draw a 2D map, create a 3D model or give you a verbal description. They all relate to the same reality. No one is the only correct description relating to the reality that is.
Giving a different interpretation of the evidence is not necessarily groping blindly behind a metaphysical curtain or just wild free thinking. It is possible to make sensible alternative inferences about what must be happening to give observed outcomes. If in doing so it avoids counter-intuitiveness, overcomes incompatibility of theory,answers questions and overcomes the temporal paradoxes too that is all evidence in favour of its correctness.
"Big Bang" Simon Singh, Harper Perennial, London 2004,- [Cosmologist] "Fred Hoyle, who died in 2001, went to his grave in the firm belief that the Quasi-Steady State model was correct and that the Big Bang model was wrong.In his autobiography he wrote:" To claim, however, as many supporters of Big Bang cosmology do, to have arrived at the correct theory verges, it seems to me, on arrogance. If I have ever fallen into that trap myself, it has been in short spells of hubris, inevitably followed by nemesis." Such healthy defiance is is an inherent part of science and should never be discouraged."
"After all, the Big Bang model itself was a consequence of a rebellion against the establishment.And Hoyle's hatred of the Big Bang model itself was probably compounded by the fact that it was his naming of it that helped to establish it in the public consciousness." - That's an amusing fact!
In that same book, sub titled "the most important scientific discovery of all time and why you need to know about it", which is actually an easy to read but serious account of the historical development of Big Bang theory, there is another quote by Carl Sagen who said "If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe." I wonder if he was smiling as he said it. Its both profound and daft to me (I think it is meant to be)- that makes it funny.
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Paul Reed replied on Apr. 16, 2012 @ 07:16 GMT
Georgina
“Frame was the word I used. It is the setting for a description, not the kernel of the event itself…”
Yes I know, and that is how I am using it, ie the logic/rationale (your word “setting”) that underpins any given representational device (which could be a maths model, a graphic, or words-your word “description”). This is why John keeps on arguing that any description is ‘subjective’, because one always has to take a ‘position’ (logic/rationale). Any statement is a judgement, it has a reference and an internal rationale. But, reality can only be all that which is potentially experienceable by any organism. There may be something else, but we cannot know it. Once outwith that boundary, it is just a matter of belief. However, within that boundary, we are able to take a ‘position’ which is objective, ie what is experienced/sensed (having eradicated any anomalies due to individualism, and any illusions that are a function of the way the senses/brain work). What occurs, does so independently of us, so an abstracted experience from a range of individual experiences (which is all we have) is correct. The ‘frame/logic/etc’ must correspond to how reality occurs.
The point here is to differentiate that which is beyond our existence, from that which exists but is not directly experienceable, from that which is a function of a particular circumstance. Then, and only then, can we identify reality, as it is to us, which is all we can do.
I would agree with “arrogance” if people are asserting Big Bang as fact, both in the sense that further work needs to be done to substantiate it, and, more importantly, it can only ever be a hypothesised fact (ie we are inferring from direct experience an occurrence which is not, of itself, directly experienceable). Or, if people are saying that it is the ‘solution’, because following the logic there must have been something there to go bang, and a reason why it did so. However, I would suggest that at that stage we probably cross the line between accounting for events that are not directly experienceable, and just invoking beliefs that are not properly testable. Asserting that it is a repetitive event does not really assist, because the question always remains, ‘how did the first bang occur’. So it is probably best left as the ‘start point’ (ie a quasi-solution) and accepting that anything previous we cannot know.
Paul
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Georgina Parry replied on Apr. 16, 2012 @ 10:44 GMT
"Big Bang" Simon Singh, Harper Perennial, London 2004
"Chapter 1
IN THE BEGINNING
Science must begin with myths, and with the criticism of myths. KARL POPPER
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. GALILEO GALILEI
Living on Earth may be expensive, but it includes an annual free trip around the sun. ANONYMOUS."
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Steve Dufourny replied on Apr. 16, 2012 @ 19:22 GMT
.... all is to sell, even the soul also no???
And soon we are going to buy the air.Already that we buy our water , already that all people have not water???
The irony at its paroxysim above the cries of desesperated. Have you seen their cries, have you understood what is the altruism.And what is the universality. Have you seen that the spheres and the sphere turn still and always. Like a quiet dance of optimization.
The reality is our perception and it respects the foundamental perceptions. Even for all mathematical extrapolations and all philosophy coherent and convergent towards this universal optimization, let's name it, the spherization. The experiments and the monney are not tools for pseudo things. The humanity and the globality needs real in,vestments for concrete global solutions, the rest is vain. If you think that an experiment like Joy and Tom spoke is interesting, let me laugh. An experiment and tests ...are there to help our global humanity and its ecosystems. Like all creations, the rest is vain. The money is a tool and it must be distributed with the biggest rationalism.
A research for the malaria, that it is well, a research for an optimization of optimization of turbins, that ! it is well or a new motor , natural or new system of pulleys, or research about the optimization of soils or this or that. But experiments for time travel ??? Where are we going??? IN A WALL DEAR GLOBALITY.
The responsabilities of universal leaders are so important at this moment !!!
and you think that hey are gong to invest in these stupiditities ??? FRANKLY LET4S BE RATIONAL !!!
Steve
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Paul Reed replied on Apr. 17, 2012 @ 08:04 GMT
Georgina
Except that it is not science that is beginning with a myth/miracle, or any other word one wants to use to mean 'that which possibly exists but we cannot know'. It is existence/reality that effectively does so, because it is only knowable via a sensory closed loop. Science is the objective, within that confine, explanation of what is manifest to us. So it must, to remain objective, abide by the rules of that confine, ie correspond to how reality occurs to us.
Paul
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Georgina Parry replied on Apr. 24, 2012 @ 09:25 GMT
Quote- "Science is about a great many things, says Doyne farmer. Its about the systematic accumulation of facts and data. Its about the construction of logically consistent theories to account for those facts.Its about the discovery of new materials, new pharmaceuticals, and new technologies. But at heart, he says, science is about telling stories - stories that explain what the world is like, and how it came to be as it is. And like older explanations, such as creation myths, epic legends, and fairy tales, the stories that science tells help us understand something about who we are as human beings, and how we relate to the universe. There is the story of how the universe exploded into existence some 15 billion years ago at the instant of the Big Bang, the story of how quarks, electrons, neutrinos, and the rest came flying out of the Big Bang as an indescribably hot plasma;the story of how those particles condensed into the matter we see around us today in the galaxies, the stars, and the planets;the story of how the sun is a star like other stars , and how the Earth is a planet like other planets; the story of how life arose on this earth and evolved over 4 billion years of geological time................" "Complexity" M. Mitchell Waldrop, Penguin , London N.Y. 1994
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Steve Dufourny , THE SPHERE replied on May. 10, 2012 @ 10:57 GMT
Let's go for a catalyzation of personalities.
Georgina, always the same repetition without innovation!
James and You are good philosophes, that is all.
the simultaneity they say ...
Ironical !
James, I am shocked by your words !!!
you say "...There are others here that include spheres in their analyses and conclusions. I think the discussions are great and read them to learn from others...." you think what James ??? That the strategy of words can help you and your friends.let me laugh !They shall not steal my works!Their solution is to kill me. I don't fear to die.
Learn James or make an other hobby !
and it is my theory , the real one ! the first rational ! and you think that like Bruce Watkins said me on Linkedin, that he could steal my works because he won always with his attorneys.He said also that he could delete all my past net for the dates. Fuck you dear stealers, even dead I will continue band of stealers, fuck you dear stealers.I am disgusted bu these comportments since several years.Bruce Watkins Shane Steinaman and all others puppets with false names. You think what James and others.That I am going to accept this sad comportment for my theory. Fuck you dear stealers. Just a band of not skilling and a band of stealers !!! I can understand that my theory is revolutionary and is important considering the potential at short middle and long term. But fuck you dear stealers ! If you think that I am going to be at home like that, let me laugh ! In live I will explain to the world what is my theory of spherization by 3D quantum spheres and their finite series and the cosmological 3d spheres and their finite serie and the unique universal sphere and its central sphere correlated with the uniquity serie. And you say what James ? poor frustrated that I must accept that others people speake of my works without respecting these works.And my 3 equations !!!
No but I am dreaming in fact. You take me for what, I have studied and worked hard for this theory.Fuck you dear stealers. And you Bruce Watkins and Shane or narendra Nath or others , learn from me and forget your vanity and be rational, and study the real searchers of truths instead to make the bad for your fellowman.
I am shocked, disgusted, parano,sad, irritated,....the world is sick because it exists bad people in the high spheres of all systems. That must change !!!
For the well of all.
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