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May 23, 2013

ARTICLE: Phantasms of Infinity [back to article]
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paul valletta wrote on Feb. 26, 2008 @ 10:15 GMT
“Without a way of calculating probabilities,

cosmology is a dead science, it doesn’t exist,” says Vitaly Vanchurin of Tufts University. “At first, I thought, this is crazy, this is not science. But if we cannot answer

this question, we can’t do cosmology.” .

Probable cause of a bang, then a Boltzman Brain appearing next to you is close to "infinity", if every concievable permutation of likely "cause" events occuring, has happened, then the likelyhood of brains popping into existence increase's.

The BB is very similar to "egg and chicken" question, you can observe an egg emerging out of a chicken, just as you can observe a chicken emerging out of an egg, both occur and both have "probable cuase" ?

Now, Infinity for say counting of numbers cannot happen in a finite time, and thus anything that has a beginning, must have an end, example there is only one way to count to/for infinity, and it has a starting number, 1 and a following number 2, there happens a consecutive ordering process, 3 follows 2, and 4 follows 3.

Even a computer operating at the speed of light, and is in countinueous counting operative mode, will eventually fail in some way, a glitch in software or hardware, or the environment degrades to an extent the computer no longer functions, thus Infinity ( to keep on going forever ) cannot or will not be a probable outcome?..you really do need a glitch free supercomputer, that can operate for at least an eternity, and probably longer !

Nature has a functioning reset button, if something has a start point, then it probable has an end point, thus is infinity free, for the Universe, this may be effectively "continuous", or "cyclic" for a percieved eternity?

If there is an infinity of time and space, then there cannot have been a start point to time and a beginning to space? The Big-Bang model is actually infinity free, because it has, by its very implicated nature, had a starting point and it will evolve into a infinty free end point?

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amrit wrote on Jan. 17, 2009 @ 09:51 GMT
there was no big bang, universe is a system in a permanent dynamic equilibrium, no beginning, no end, see

http://www.chronos.msu.ru/EREPORTS/sarli_the_theory.pdf

un
iverse does not run in time as time is a measure of motion only, see file attached

attachments: Time_is_a_Measure_of_Motion_Sorli__2009.doc

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Georgina Parry wrote on Mar. 14, 2009 @ 05:32 GMT
Space time is not infinity expanding, so there is no need to answer this question. There is a difference between the objective material universe that is coming together to form matter and structures and the electromagnetic image that is detected spreading out across space.

The image is interpreted to give a subjective reality of the universe that is not the same as its actual current objective material existence.

Its objective existence can not be seen. Its subjective existence is seen and currently calculations and speculations are based on this subjective reality only. This subjective reality is the reality in which relativity is observed.

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