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TOPIC: If the world ended tomorrow, would we notice? [refresh]
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FQXi Administrator Anthony Aguirre wrote on Mar. 31, 2008 @ 16:17 GMT
In recognition of FQXi of Doomsday week, suppose the world ended tomorrow. In particular, suppose that, as discussed in Kate Becker's fun article, we live in a 'false vacuum', that can decay to a lower energy state. The decay would take the form of a bubble of 'true' vacuum that grows at the speed of light, smashing into us with enormous energy without warning, annihilating everything we hold...

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Moshe wrote on Apr. 1, 2008 @ 00:30 GMT
Seems to me that the confusion here is assuming that two objects that are completely identical are necessarily one and the same object. Without this confusion the answer to the question seems straightforward: if the world ended tomorrow, then those of us (say in the multiverse ensemble, just to avoid MWI issues) encountering the bubble will notice, those who don't encounter the bubbles will not notice. Those two "worlds" were identical up to that point, but are no longer so. They were not the same "world" even up to the point when their history was identical, the same way that two identical tennis balls are not a single tennis ball.

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FQXi Administrator Anthony Aguirre wrote on Apr. 3, 2008 @ 19:31 GMT
Moshe,

I don't think it's quite as simple as that. To elaborate on what is troubling, imagine the old thought experiment of the star-trek teleporter that disassembles you, then creates a perfectly identical copy elsewhere. If you would be willing to use one of those, then I submit you should be troubled by the scenario I outlined, as follows. Suppose the teleporter transported you to some immensely faraway place. That should not change your willingness to get in, which is presumably based on the idea that there is a continuity of experience between 'you' and 'your re-creation' far away. But then how is there any difference between this continuity of existence, and the one that would exist across a version of you ended by bubble annihilation, then continued in a different branch of the wavefunction, or continued in a faraway place in the universe?

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Moshe wrote on Apr. 3, 2008 @ 23:16 GMT
Thanks Anthony. I see some difference between the two scenarios: the teleporter presumably is some complicated but perfectly causal process. The relation between the new and old self is perfectly deterministic. The unitary evolution here is what provides the continuity. My perception will probably not be continuous, but that is not very different from sleeping. It is much easier for me to think that two people that happen to be identical up to a point in time (in a specific slicing etc.), but which were never in causal contact, are just two different people, I see no reason to count them as the same.

The MWI version is less straightforward for me, but I suspect it is because I don't really understand it.

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