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Ultimate Possibilities of Physics by Ben Baten
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Author Ben Baten wrote on Sep. 9, 2009 @ 12:13 GMT
Essay AbstractIn an attempt to describe the ultimate possibilities of physics, I would like to present a theory of physics referred to as Quantum Field Mechanics that, in my opinion, unifies quantum theory and relativity, and collapses many speculative ideas pursued by the physics community. In this way, a consistent basis is obtained for further research.
Author BioBen Baten received his Master's Degree in Electrical Engineering from the University of Twente in The Netherlands in 1987. He hopes to make a contribution to fundamental physics by creating interest in, and contributing to, alternative approaches to current physics.
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Steve Dufourny wrote on Sep. 10, 2009 @ 07:17 GMT
Hello dear Mr Baten ,
It's relevant .Congratulations .
I like those words,"the electromagnetic protofield is much more mobile than the gravitational protofield"
It's logic indeed in an evolution point of vue .
Regards
Steve
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Author Ben Baten wrote on Sep. 11, 2009 @ 23:57 GMT
I would like to add a few thoughts. This could not be included in the essay due to the size restriction.
In the write up, I wanted to give the reader a general overview of QFM, originally developed by Andrei P. Kirilyuk, and how it compares to other theories. I realize very well that QFM is unconventional and that it takes a while to comprehend its essence, since it brings many notions of...
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I would like to add a few thoughts. This could not be included in the essay due to the size restriction.
In the write up, I wanted to give the reader a general overview of QFM, originally developed by Andrei P. Kirilyuk, and how it compares to other theories. I realize very well that QFM is unconventional and that it takes a while to comprehend its essence, since it brings many notions of different theories together in a coherent theory of physics. I hope you'll take some time to go through the essay and provide feedback if some elements are unclear. This feedback can be used to improve the material in [2,3].
1. At its core, QFM only makes three physically motivated assumptions: existence to two protofields with different mobilities and mutual protofield attraction. It seems hardly possible to beat this theory in terms of minimality. From these three assumptions many known results from currently different theories are deduced.
2. The protofields are really pre-time, pre-space structureless entities. Only after assuming protofield attraction, dynamically created space and time emerges.
3. Protofield attraction is postulated in the essay, but its physical need is motivated as follows. Without interaction, any perturbation in a protofield will 'spread out' and thus be unstable. Protofield attraction could potentially ensure that protofield perturbations are 'self-stabilizing'. As shown by the mathematical analysis of the state equation (existence equation), under the assumption of protofield attraction, stabilized entities can indeed occur and be identified with particles.
4. Obviously, when it is stated that the electromagnetic protofield is quite mobile and the gravitational protofield is very stiff, the mobilities of the two protofields are considered relative to one another. The larger mobility of the electromagnetic protofield gives rise stronger electromagnetic interaction than gravity. An analogy may be useful to illustrate this effect. A ball rolling on a frictionless flexible sheet will experience a large 'force' when the ball sinks deeper into the sheet as it rolls along. On the other hand, a ball rolling on a frictionless surface which is rather hard will not experience a large 'force'.
5. The existence equation (state equation of QFM) is symmetric in the sense that both protofields are taken into account. However, the protofields have different mobilities such that there is a physical asymmetry. The analysis of the existence equation is general because, in order to conclude the existence of quantum beat behavior, there are two interacting bodies assumed without specifying any detail of the protofields. In other words, the state equation describes any type of two-body interaction.
6. QFM, as a theory, is structured as follows: physical interaction of (physical) protofields --> mathematical state function describing unceasing quantum beat behavior ---> mathematical action condition (2.2) describing discrete aspects of quantum beat behavior.
Note that the mathematics follows from the physical considerations. This is unlike other theories, which often start with a mathematical framework which is largely guessed with respect to its physics, or one tries to 'derive' the physics from the math. With QFM, focus is brought back to absolutely minimal physically motivated assumptions (existence of two protofields and their interaction), although some sophisticated math is required to understand the intricate state function behavior.
7. Consider the link: state function ---> action condition. This link indicates that all physical observables that appear in action condition (2.2) directly correspond to a particular aspect of state function behavior. In that way, all the observables have a clear physical meaning and 'nothing extra' gets introduced by transitioning from state function level to the action condition. This results in an absolutely minimal physical description.
8. In quantum condition (2.2), the energy E and momentum p of the massive particle are directly related to the state function behavior, since from the quantum condition it follows that:
a) E=hv, where v is the quantum beat frequency (which corresponds to the behavior of the reduction states and intermediate state together).
b) p=h/lambda, where lambda is de Broglie's wavelength (de Broglie's wave corresponds to the behavior of a sequence of intermediate state occurrences).
These expressions are well-known from de Broglie's original work.
9. Planck's constant must be different from zero in (2.2) to represent the unceasing random quantum beat process.
10. In case of photons, the quantum of action must be set equal to zero, corresponding to the absence of internal randomness. The well-known expression E=pc follows from (2.2) by formally setting the quantum of action equal to zero. However, the photon energy and momentum must be interpreted as changes in massive particle energy and momentum upon photon emission or absorption.
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Steve Dufourny wrote on Sep. 14, 2009 @ 10:08 GMT
Hello ,
Thanks for these developments.
Tghe equation E=pc is relevant .
I search the ultim equation for E.
E=mc˛ wasn't finished because the evolution point of vue and the increase of mass must be inserted in my opinion by very weak interactions .It's a little if the Energy was on the road of the maximum in the two senses of relativistic perception.
At this...
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Hello ,
Thanks for these developments.
Tghe equation E=pc is relevant .
I search the ultim equation for E.
E=mc˛ wasn't finished because the evolution point of vue and the increase of mass must be inserted in my opinion by very weak interactions .It's a little if the Energy was on the road of the maximum in the two senses of relativistic perception.
At this moment my equation is not finished ,I have inserted time (t) in an evolution point of vue correlated with the increase of mass and the optimization of spherisation.
If we consider what all has the maximum energy in the two senses ,quantum and cosmological with their limits of perceptibility.
It's a little if the particles changes with the light to build in fact the ultim physical energy ,for me at the ultim Universal sphere and its mass spheres systems.
I think what the light becomes non linear with a specific velocity of rotation but it's a hypothesis of course.
Thus the gravity could change these velocities of rotations due to the gravity of mass centers ,coded in an evolution point of vue .
E=m c and time evolution correlated with mass increasing .The momentum correlated too with the rotations of the quantum spheres .The relative limits and planck scales too must be adapted .If the thermodynamic is inserted too ,it's relevant I think .
Regards
Steve
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Peter Jackson wrote on Sep. 14, 2009 @ 16:39 GMT
A well presented theory mr Baten, but I couldn't find where the inductive evidence, to give it more solidity than etherial strings and membranes, was hidden. The comment; "faster than light gravitiational interaction seems to be required to ensure stability of the solar system" is contrary to most evidence and unsubstantiated.
The central analysis that GR "..needs to be sacrificed to unify Quantum and relativistic behavour" is a common postulate that normally consigns theories to stasis at best. A theory proposing that would have to be exceptionally well evidenced (however right it may be) to not end up on the scrapheap.
This is a shame as much of the theory is well thought through and holds out much promise.
But, if you wish to keep SR, answer me this, and advise if the theory has any comment:
If an experiment on the Space Station sent light pulses down a long fibre optic cable (fixed to the outside), and we and the station passed each other on a contra orbit at a significant speed, would we observe the pulse only at 'c', or at greater than 'c', (or lesser subject to direction of travel). you may also send the pulse through the vacuum rather than a FO cable if you wish.
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Author Ben Baten wrote on Sep. 15, 2009 @ 03:37 GMT
Dear Peter-
Thanks for your feedback. I partially agree with your comment on 'inductive evidence'. This is surely due to the 'controversial' nature of the two issues that you bring up. An expanded version of the essay (a research report) would be necessary to illuminate some of the issues that were only briefly touched upon.
Let me try to address some of your concerns.
1. In...
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Dear Peter-
Thanks for your feedback. I partially agree with your comment on 'inductive evidence'. This is surely due to the 'controversial' nature of the two issues that you bring up. An expanded version of the essay (a research report) would be necessary to illuminate some of the issues that were only briefly touched upon.
Let me try to address some of your concerns.
1. In the essay, I say that both protofields are mutually attractive, and the e/m (electromagnetic) protofield is far more mobile than the gr (gravitational) protofield. Any perturbations due to protofield attraction will, therefore, primarily be observable in the e/m protofield. In section 2.1, 3rd bullet, I say that the speed of an e/m perturbation is identified with the speed of light c [2,3]. This only follows after further development of the theory, such that, at a certain point, one ends up with a parameter that needs to be set equal to the speed of light when one wants to match current theory and QFM. So, an e/m perturbation moves at the speed of light. But, this does not imply anything about the speed of a gr perturbation. Since the gr protofield is far more rigid ('metallic'), a gr perturbation must experience a motion far exceeding the speed of light.
"faster than light gravitational interaction seems to be required to ensure stability of the solar system"
is not necessarily contrary to most evidence and unsubstantiated, see reference [8]. This reference maintains that a distinction needs to be made between 'the speed of e/m and gr'. If you do a 'speed of gravity' search on the Internet you'll also find researchers who are still trying to determine if the two speeds are identical or not.
2. Your statement: The central analysis that GR "..needs to be sacrificed to unify Quantum and relativistic behavour" is a common postulate that normally consigns theories to stasis at best.
I know what you mean and agree with you. I thought about this statement for quite a while when I wrote it, since it would definitely be controversial. However, if you read the essay, then you have to come to this conclusion. In QFM, time and space dynamically emerge from the quantum beat behavior. Quantum condition (2.2) describes the discrete behavior of the continuous, but very non-linear, state function. Time is not a dimension, the displacement delta x describes the average of the random space point motion. Time, space and displacement are all features that have a local character in the unifying quantum beat process (although time also has a global character, since quantum beat processes must be synchronized). Furthermore, (2.2) 'locally' quantifies the unification of quantum and relativistic behavior. No global curved space-time is needed. Note that in (2.2) incorporates time, displacement, energy and momentum into a single expression. This means that energy has no meaning 'outside' this expression and energy distributed in space 'outside' a particle is meaningless.
About the 'statis', I would not be surprised if this would happen since many physicist have pursued the 'discrete theories' for many years by modeling particles and interactions as 'particles' (or strings?), after Newtonian/Maxwellian (N/M) particle-field theories were composed. QFM is at the opposite end of the spectrum, with N/M theories in the middle, and assumes the existence of two physically continuous fields which are mutually attractive from which discreteness emerges dynamically.
On the FQXi website, the organizers of the essay contest state that an essay should be "Original and Creative: Foremost, the intellectual content of the essay must push forward understanding of the topic in a fresh way or with new perspective"
This still gives me some hope. Change is hard.
3. Your last question about the speed of light. If I understand your question correctly, the answer should be c. As an aside, the speed of light is kind of independent of (2.2). An extra 'dispersion condition' E = pv/c^2, see [2,3] for its derivation, restricts the relation between E and p. Combining (2.2) and the dispersion relation yields the Lorentz Transformation, see [3]. In Special Relativity, the speed of light is also sort of independent of the Lorentz Transformation.
I would like to thank you for taking the time to read the essay. Likely, other people also take issue with the 'controversial' remarks in the essay.
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Peter Jackson wrote on Sep. 16, 2009 @ 10:11 GMT
A brave man, pushing a theory against concensus with no real evidence. But I'm a great supporter of your right to do so and wish you luck. Read my own essay 'Perfect Symmetry' which suggests the current 'system' is critically flawed in this regard.
Interesting answer to my riddle and view on Relativity; You say it has to be abandoned, propose as solid a background field as is possible, in fact two!, which would destroy SR anyway, yet still go for the paradoxical SR postulate that 'c' is invarient from any frame!!
I understand, it's just so ingrained, but check out such phenomina as the gas jets of M87, a feature moving within a galaxy moving within a cluster in a moving nebulae, so the jets are doing well over 'c' from our frame (recently confirmed by Hubble). The explanation is in the Article attached to post 4 under my essay. I'd be interested in your view as there are some similarities between your theory and my model.
Peter
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Author Ben Baten wrote on Sep. 16, 2009 @ 15:41 GMT
Dear Peter-
With respect to pushing a theory against consensus I can say the following. To me, it has become 'consensus' that the search for a unified theory of physics should be a math expert exercise instead of a physics exercise. There appears to be a trend in physics to 'solve unification' by piling up more and more abstractions, such as multi-dimensional spaces, which have never been...
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Dear Peter-
With respect to pushing a theory against consensus I can say the following. To me, it has become 'consensus' that the search for a unified theory of physics should be a math expert exercise instead of a physics exercise. There appears to be a trend in physics to 'solve unification' by piling up more and more abstractions, such as multi-dimensional spaces, which have never been observed (see also some of the remarks made by physicist on my website [3]). It almost seems like more math is considered better.
String Theory and other 'modern theories' take a formal approach to develop a unified theory and, in my opinion, tries to derive the physics from the math. This has led to searches of e.g. gravitons and other types of exotic particles, which may not exist.
QFM starts with observations and postulates mutually attractive protofields, after which as state equation is formulated: math follows from physics. This ensures that no extra abstractions are introduced. In this sense QFM is very different from other theories, since it starts with observations. In my opinion, such an approach should be considered seriously, since it takes out all unnecessary formalisms: it only uses the 'good math' (physical math).
I hope that the organizers of this contest won't dismiss a serious alternative to current approaches, just because it is different.
A side note: QFM may be extendable to higher levels of compositions, basically relying on a similar type of physically motivated state function. That appears ultimate unification to me.
It is not true that there is --no real evidence-- for QFM. Let me give some 'real' examples:
1. The Lorentz Transformation is reproduced but now with discrete time and displacement which, in QFM, have a physical interpretation. Since discrete time and displacement are so fine-granular (quantum beat frequency is 10^20 Hz and with the speed of light this give a very small discrete distance aka Compton distance) they are very hard to detect in experiments, but a sequence of discrete time periods and displacements can be approximated as continuous, which yields the LT from SR. So, within measurement accuracy, the LT from QFM is compatible with SR.
2. All results of traditional electromagnetic theory are reproduced, so QFM is at least compatible with those results.
3. Reference [4] demonstrates the existence of an internal oscillation in electrons, which is predicted by QFM.
4. The spin of electrons is predicted by QFM.
5. Inertia of massive particles is predicted as a feature of the random internal motion.
6. The nature of quarks detected in hadrons can be explained as quantum beat processes. In traditional theory they are considered 'particles'.
7. Massive particles and photons are predicted to exist. Virtual particles are not part of QFM.
So, at least many experimental results are compatible with QFM.
In addition some other appealing features of QFM are:
a. Time, space, spin, charge are all features following from the 'unified' quantum beat process behavior.
b. Paradoxical results, such instantaneous collapse of the wave function do not appear in QFM.
c. Infinities (singularities) do not exist in QFM.
d. Planck's constant is explained as representing the presence of an internal unceasing random oscillation 'inside' electrons.
e. (Modified) Planck time, length and mass can physically be explained in the context of QFM.
You misunderstand. I surely don't say that Special Relativity has to be abandoned.
Section 2.5 in the essay indicates that the Lorentz Transformation relates discrete time and displacements (instead of continuous 'time' and 'space' as in the traditional LT. The LT in the essay is directly derived from quantum condition (2.2) and some other considerations that are part of QFM.
Quantum condition (2.2) is based on the discrete time and space that are dynamically generated (see state function). There is no need for global curved time-space. That is the reason that in section 3.1 in the essay it is said that, within the context of QFM, there is no place for General Relativity. What is global in QFM is that quantum beat processes are phase/frequency synchronized and interaction between particles.
In summary, Special Relativity still holds in QFM, which also implies that all results from traditional electromagnetic theory are valid. But, General Relativity has no place --in the context of QFM--.
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Leshan wrote on Sep. 22, 2009 @ 22:15 GMT
I have analyzed the essay 'Ultimate Possibilities of Physics' by Ben J. Baten (QFM theory), the review is below.
I do not see any logical reasoning in this theory. The main postulates of QFM appear from nothing. The properties of protofields also are not derived but appear from nothing. It is not logic, it is the free fantasy only. The author wrote: 'By applying the principle of parsimony, it is postulated that..' The notion 'principle of parsimony' is used here only to create the illusion that QFM is scientifically derived. What is the protofield in general? What is protofields made of? The authors do not know the answers. Nevertheless they endue protofields with imaginary properties, for example homogeneous and frictionless. Then authors postulate 'that the two protofields are mutually attractive'. 'As postulated, the electromagnetic protofield is much more mobile than the gravitational protofield'. The entire essay contains postulates and fantasy only; I do not see any logic in general. The question is when fantasy ends and science begin in this theory.
The author is not able to explain the nature of protofields. The most part of phenomena they explain by the 'quantum beat process and synchronization'.
The QFM is not able to describe gravitation and the curvature of space-time. The author wrote: 'General Relativity, as a fundamental theory of physics, needs to be sacrificed to unify quantum and relativistic behavior'. But I'm sure that the QFM theory needs to be sacrificed to clean the physics.
Conclusion: I do not found any logical reasoning in QFM theory, it is not the consequential theory at all; I'm sure it is a free fantasy only. The protofields appear from nothing. All properties of protofields appear from nothing. The description of all phenomena like mass, charge, gravitation is a pure fantasy only. Not General Relativity, but QFM theory needs to be sacrificed to clean physics.
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Author Ben Baten wrote on Sep. 23, 2009 @ 01:41 GMT
Dear Leshan-
I thank you for your feedback, but I absolutely disagree with your 'sure' assessments and your specific remarks. I get the impression that you are more impressed with abstract postulates of e.g. Quantum Mechanics (looks more 'scientific') than any serious attempt to explain the origin of those postulates, at the expense of introducing simpler postulates that have not been...
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Dear Leshan-
I thank you for your feedback, but I absolutely disagree with your 'sure' assessments and your specific remarks. I get the impression that you are more impressed with abstract postulates of e.g. Quantum Mechanics (looks more 'scientific') than any serious attempt to explain the origin of those postulates, at the expense of introducing simpler postulates that have not been generally accepted yet.
Concerning the 'fantasy' aspect, I would be careful with such a statement. I believe that the results on QFM are far less fantastic than current theories, which lack a good understanding of the nature of space and time (are they continuous or discrete?), propose multi-dimensional spaces (what are they made of?), and assume such phenomena as an instantaneous collapse of the wave function (what is a wave function?), etc. This lack of understanding is compensated by the huge number of, often incompatible, formalisms that have been proposed. Formalisms are only a solution if they match nature. The proposed mutually attracting protofields appears to provide this match.
It is unfortunate that some aspects could not be explained in more detail in the essay and were postulated, which may come across as artificial. Please also read other clarifications that I provided after posting the essay. Here is a more thorough explanation, starting off with some general remarks.
1. At its core, QFM only makes three assumptions: existence to two protofields with different mobilities and mutual protofield attraction. From these three assumptions many known results from currently different theories are deduced and the origin of many phenomena like particle spin, inertia and relativity is explained.
2. QFM is a continuous theory from which discrete time, space and particles emerge as highly non-linear phenomena. This is in contrast with current theories, which assume real (and virtual) particles. The notion of space and time are often ill-defined. In current theories time is an assumed background parameter and a dimension, but what is it? Particles traverse space, but what is space?
3. The protofield postulates are no random assumptions, but originate from observations of nature. We know that there are two short-range interactions (weak and strong) and two long-range interactions( e/m and gravity). I don't think that there would be a disagreement there.
4. We know that the short-range strong interaction and long-range gravity are both attractive. Current theory proposes to describe these interactions in terms of discrete entities: gluons and gravitons or even strings. None of
these discrete entities has ever been observed, but they are 'mathematically' postulated based on symmetry and other arguments in an attempt to construct a unified theory of physics. QFM proposes that a common continuous, homogeneous, frictionless medium is responsible for these interaction, what is called the gravitational protofield in the essay, instead of discrete particles.
5. We know that long-range e/m interaction and the short-range weak interaction have some similarities. They have been -theoretically- unified as electro-weak theory. The photon is supposedly responsible for e/m interaction and (virtual, i.e. calculated?) W+/-/Z particles for weak interactions. QFM proposes that a common medium is really responsible for those interactions. This is odd, since in current theory we have discrete interaction particles while QFM proposes a common 'continuous' interaction medium. Obviously, then it remains to be explained what the role of photons and the other particles is.
In the context of QFM, photons do exist as discrete particles (see essay) that can be absorbed by massive particles and be emitted from massive particles. However, the long-range e/m interaction is caused by the e/m protofield, contrary what current theory maintains. As far as I know, the virtual particles have never been observed -directly-, which leaves the possibility of a different explanation. At this moment, I don't have a detailed answer for that, but it must be related to the non-linear behavior of the protofield interaction 'inside' massive particles.
6. Protofield attraction is postulated in the essay, but its physical need is motivated as follows. Without interaction, any perturbation in a medium will 'spread out' and thus be unstable. Protofield attraction could potentially ensure that protofield perturbations are 'self-stabilizing'. As shown by the mathematical analysis of existence equation (see references for the details), under the assumption of protofield attraction, stabilized entities can indeed occur and be identified with particles.
The protofields are assumed to be pre-time, pre-space structureless entities. Only after assuming protofield attraction, dynamically created space and time emerges. We can only experience what the protofields are and will never know their details. This does not seem to be very satisfactory, but it is not much different than what main stream physicists need to assume at a certain point when they are developing a theory: do they know what strings, fields, or particles really are? The needs to postulate something. With the minimal assumption of the attracting protofields at least much more can be explained.
Quantum condition (2.2) is based on discrete time and space that are dynamically generated (see state function). There is no need for global curved time-space. Time is not a dimension. Displacement of particles is directly related to dynamically generated space points, but is not space. That is the reason that in section 3.1 in the essay it is said that -within the context of QFM- there is no place for General Relativity. So, either one accepts GR and ends up with curved space-time, or one accepts time and space as in QFM. The two are not compatible.
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Leshan wrote on Sep. 23, 2009 @ 17:36 GMT
Dear Ben Baten,
The gravitational and electromagnetic interactions have a totally different nature. Gravitation is a curvature of space-time whereas electromagnetism is the exchange of photons. However, both these incompatible theories are described in QFM theory by the same 'protofield' with God-like properties (pre-time, pre-space structureless entities). In my view, it is impossible for some real entity to curve space-time and create electromagnetic fields at the same time.
There have been dozens of experimental tests of General Relativity. The scoresheet is pretty impressive. If QFM theory denies the curvature of space-time, it contradicts to experimental data. The gravitational time dilation and length contraction has been detected experimentally already.
Sincerely,
Leshan
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Author Ben Baten wrote on Sep. 23, 2009 @ 19:13 GMT
Dear Leshan (part 1)-
I does not seem that we are converging. Let me give answers on the issues that you bring up, although I doubt I can convince you given the strong opinions that you have. Obviously, a theory must be self-consistent. I believe that QFM is self-consistent, but an essay format may not be the best way to present it, since many details had to be left out and be diverted to...
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Dear Leshan (part 1)-
I does not seem that we are converging. Let me give answers on the issues that you bring up, although I doubt I can convince you given the strong opinions that you have. Obviously, a theory must be self-consistent. I believe that QFM is self-consistent, but an essay format may not be the best way to present it, since many details had to be left out and be diverted to references, which you probably haven't consulted.
1. At the end of your feedback you indicate that gravity and e/m have very different properties. Obviously, I fully agree. Then you say something that mystifies me, because you say that there a single protofield is proposed. It is clearly said in the essay that there are two different protofields, which interact. One protofield facilitates gravity and the strong interaction between particles/'quarks'. Another protofield facilitates e/m interaction and weak interactions. Note that these interactions cannot exist unless the protofields interact, such that particles can exist and dynamically cause the interactions as a consequence of the quantum beat process. I don't know how you came to the conclusion that there is a -single- protofield. It seems that you have missed something absoluty essential. I wonder if you have read the essay with this in mind. So, unlike you suggest, any God-like properties are not proposed. Please also reassess my last feedback to you in this manner.
2. Many of the so-called 'additional assumptions' are justified in the references that I mention. The essay is supposed to give an overview of QFM. It is impossible to describe all details in 10 pages. That is also impossible for other theories on which whole bookd have been written. On my website there is much more background.,You'll find a slide deck there that describes the essay in a different format. Other documents provide much detail on the math. In the essay, I tried to stay away from the complicated math describing the state function behavior and gave references where details can be found.
3. On the issue of initial axioms, I have had similar discussions with string theorists and researchers on fundamental theories. Several of those physicists eventually acknowledged that current theories also make core assumptions (postulates), which at a certain point cannot be explained no matter how hard you try.
I get the impression that QFM comes across to you as strange and in certain areas unacceptable, since you claim that more assumptions are added later in the essay. The assumptions that you allude to probably have to do with further characterization of the protofields and their interaction. A few issues, like a full description of the phenomena of quantum beat process synchronization in terms of the state function, remain to be completed. Right now, these assumptions follow from a combination of observations and the large piece of QFM that is already mature.
4. The 'thermodynamic motion' is something that Louis de Broglie refers to in his book [1]. This brownian-like motion (zitterbewegung) of electrons could not be justified by him, although through he whole life he unsuccessfully tried to come up with a theory that incorporates wave and corpuscular behavior in a unified fashion. Bohm also tried this. The state function solution of QFM exhibits this behavior. By the way, in this book "Wholeness and the Implicate Order" (page 101), Bohm came up with a similar expression as quantum condition (2.2). Bohm is, like de Broglie also talking about an internal clock, dynamically creating action. I would urge you to read Bohm's book, section 12 and also consult de Broglie's early work [1]. Note that (2.2) is not just falling out of the sky. It describes the continuous state function's quantum beat behavior in a discrete fashion. In that sense (2.2) is less fundamental, but allows us to measure some of the physical observables.
In my opinion, De Broglie and Bohm were much closer to a realistic description of nature than many current physicsts. QFM has many similar characteristics of their theories, but has now put the ideas into a 'realistic' framework. Many physicist consider de Broglie's orginal ideas 'history'. They have continued on their path towards formalization.
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Author Ben Baten wrote on Sep. 23, 2009 @ 19:18 GMT
Dear Leshan (part 2)-
5. The quantum beat process of a massive particle is an unceasing oscillation combined with a rotation and random motion. The quantum beat process is basically a combined perturbation in both protofields caused by their attraction. Since the protofields attract to one another, also an opposite tress is created in both protofieldswhich attempts to counteract the...
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Dear Leshan (part 2)-
5. The quantum beat process of a massive particle is an unceasing oscillation combined with a rotation and random motion. The quantum beat process is basically a combined perturbation in both protofields caused by their attraction. Since the protofields attract to one another, also an opposite tress is created in both protofieldswhich attempts to counteract the perturbation, such that at a certain point the attraction will reverse and so on, causing an oscillating process. The details of how this counter-intuitive behavior must occur is essentially concluded from the mathematical analysis of the state function behavior, see [2,3]. I won't repeat those details here.
6. A notion of time could be assigned to photons, but then it will depend on their frequency. Such a notion cannot be used as a fixed reference of time and is, therefore, not very useful. In case of a stationary electron, the quantum beat frequency DELTA t sub 0 is fixed and, thus, a good reference of time.
7. Based on observations, physicists propose that quarks are bound into hadrons and quarks are particles. In the essay, I indicate that in the context of QFM, this needs to be understood as binding between quantum beat processes (a different interpretation of observations). I say that for a consistent notion of e/m charge, all quantum beat processes need to be synchronized, which is explained in one of my reports in order to match observations (take this as a postulate for now), but remains to be explained at a deeper level in terms of the state function. For electrons and positrons this phase-synchronization would physically explain their ability to annihilate. Current theory just says that unlike charged particles of the same type annihilate, why this is the case cannot be explained apart from saying that this is a property of charged particles.
8. GR is the generally accepted theory and indeed experiments supposedly demonstrate its 'correctness' (better: are not able to falsify it). You use that as an argument that QFM must be incorrect. Clearly this is an opinion that locks out any discussions of other alternatives. There are other theories that predict phenomena equally well as GR, but have not received much attention. Look also at http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0908/0908.3842v1.pdf and
specifically section 2, which describes that GR fails for extremely large distances. Also, the fact that it has not been possible to 'combine' GR and Quantum Theory must be an indication that one or both theories are incomplete or partially incorrect. That's why alternative are bing pursued. My take is that both theories are fundamentally incompatible and have major issues, which will always inhibit unification. I guess that the issues are difficult to see because otherwise it would have been possible to unify them a long time ago. Furthermore, physicist have gotten so used to them that challenging them 'is not done'.
9. Relativistic time dilation follows from quantum condition (2.2). You can already see that this expression is 'relativistic invariant', since the left-hand side is constant and equal to Planck;'s constant. By using a so-called dispersion relation (not indicated in the essay, (see Kirilyuk's work or the QFM-II report on my website), which relates E, p and v, the time dilation relation is derived. Time dilation is basically a consequence of the time spent on forward coherent motion vs. time spent on random transverse motion. The transverse motion will diminish as the particle moves faster, thereby resulting in time stretching. As a massive particle moves faster, it behaves more like a photon (see also relation between E and p as the speed increases).
10. Particle attraction. As indicated, but not motivated in detail in the essay, charged particles should have two possible quantum beat phases. e/m interaction occurs as a consequence of an attempt to reduce the stress in the e/m flexible protofield. When particles have an opposite phase, stress reduction must result in particles moving toward one another. For particle with the same phase (charge), the opposite must occur. In case of gravity, due to the extreme stiffness of this protofield, no two quantum beat phases can exist in this protofield. Therefore, particles must be moving toward one another because they are pulling at one another simultaneously during the quantum beat process. A better analogy could probably be provided. Obviously, this rationalization of particle interaction is very different from the (real and virtual) particle explanation of current physics. In the latter case, there is also a causality issue: how does a particle know when and where to emit an interaction particle.
I would like to urge you to consult the references in the essay for many of the details I mention above, instead of dismissing QFM based on a quick impression.
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Author Ben Baten wrote on Sep. 23, 2009 @ 19:34 GMT
Dear Leshan-
It seems that you have edited and significantly reduced your originally posted feedback. So, now there is a mismatch between the issues that you originally brought up and the items that I have addressed in my last two postings.
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Steve Dufourny wrote on Sep. 24, 2009 @ 12:43 GMT
Hi Leshan and Ben ,
HIHIHI Mr super critic is there ,it's well like that ,that catalyzes .
Thus thanks .
Dear Leshan you say ,
The gravitational and electromagnetic interactions have a totally different nature. Gravitation is a curvature of space-time whereas electromagnetism is the exchange of photons. However, both these incompatible theories are described in QFM theory by the same 'protofield' with God-like properties (pre-time, pre-space structureless entities). In my view, it is impossible for some real entity to curve space-time and create electromagnetic fields at the same time.
I agree it's totally different .But ....
if we insert the rotations of quantum spheres ,thus the synchronization is important for the polarisation in an evolutive point of vue .
The weak interactions needs perhaps light to become an encoded evolutive system in the quantum architecture and its properties .
The senses ,the directions ,the velocities ,the angles ....thus imply polarity of evolution.
Regards
Steve
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Eckard Blumschein wrote on Sep. 29, 2009 @ 23:50 GMT
Dear Ben Baten,
You might be surprised, my background arose from EE too (Dipl.-Ing. 1966, Dr.-Ing. 1971). Look into my
essay in order to find a lot of selected hints to what I found out as at least questionable in very basic areas of physics and even mathematics. I did never intend to present a theory of physics but I successfully performed practical R&D, and I felt uncomfortable as a university teacher of EE each time when I suspected, the ubiquitously accepted theory, which my students had to learn, is possibly not quite correct. Perhaps you are in position to prove old practitioners like Uncle Al and me wrong? Please do not hesitate doing so.
Incidentally, what caused you to contribute to physics?
Eckard Blumschein
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Ben Baten wrote on Sep. 30, 2009 @ 22:03 GMT
Dear Eckard-
I agree with your assessment of the basic areas of physics and use of mathematics. In your essay, you mention two absolutely critical elements for developing a theory of physics:
- theory has to obey reality, not the other way round
- the traditional concept of causality is indispensable
The first element has been a major issue in physics, since...
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Dear Eckard-
I agree with your assessment of the basic areas of physics and use of mathematics. In your essay, you mention two absolutely critical elements for developing a theory of physics:
- theory has to obey reality, not the other way round
- the traditional concept of causality is indispensable
The first element has been a major issue in physics, since contemporary researchers seem to confuse formalization with reality. Unfortunately, in my view, main stream research has pretty much abandoned reality-based research, probably because hardly anyone knows how reality-based research should be pursued. Any attempts toward a reality-based theory are nowadays largely viewed as artificial, although the objective is to describe nature.
Formalization has had a kind of profound self-propelling effect because, over time, it has become the preferred tool to develop new theories and researchers are also educated this style of thinking. I believe that there is an impasse in physics to pursue truly novel new ideas. Sufficient interest in and funding of alternative research might be able break the current mode of operation.
More specifically, to my mind, contemporary theories of particles resemble a sheet spanned over an irregular object. One can pin the sheet to many different locations (read parametrization), but it always remains an approximation that inhibits true understanding of the structure and behavior of the wrapped object, no matter what kind of symmetries or beautiful mathematics one develops based upon studying the wrapped sheet.
Causality is another issue that is often ignored. An example is the supposed instantaneous collapse of the wave function appears to be based on mathematical interpretation. Since the true nature of the wave function is unknown in current physics, the cause of the collapse dynamics remains unknown. Furthermore, the character of time is ambiguous in contemporary physics, which makes any statement about instantaneous behavior questionable. Another example is that Heisenberg's uncertainty principle is regularly invoked in order to 'explain' behavior at times when a true insight in the cause of behavior is lacking, so the relation between cause and effect is lacking.
In my opinion QFM, developed by Andrei P. Kiriyuk, meets both of the stated criteria for a theory of physics, although some aspects remain to be developed. Unfortunately, the first presentations of a theory almost always lack pedagogical clarity. In the same fashion, my essay suffers from a few short cuts to limit content, but most of the references provide solid back up material. A follow up report might be a bit easier to digest or be more convincing.
As far as my desire to 'contribute' to physics: many years ago I developed the same uncomfortable feeling that you express about the state and evolution of physics. For that reason, I stayed away from physics for quite a while. See the following page http://sites.google.com/site/unifiedphysics/Home/random-walk
-into-physics on my website for more details.
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Ben Baten wrote on Oct. 1, 2009 @ 23:23 GMT
Posted to keep material together. This is based on a question from Eckard Blumschein elsewhere on the FQXi site.
Q: I do not imagine electrons like circulating points. Wouldn't such point need a velocity in excess of c as to compensate the electrostatic force?
A: In my view, the notions of electrostatic force and charge are long-range notions. So, they cannot be applied to extremely short ranges when non-linear weak interaction comes into play. Current theory mixes the short- and long-range perspective and then ends up with fractional charges. In my essay, I try to explain this (with shortcuts, but see ref in essay).
In QFM, particles are dynamic entities created by the attractive interaction between two different fundamental fields, which have different mobilities. Because the protofields have different mobilities and they are attracted to one another, any moving protfield perturbation must also rotate (spin). At any 'distance' from the dynamically created space point, the perturbation moves at the speed-of-light, but gets twisted ('entangled') like water flowing down a drain.
The electrons are not circulating points. Electrons are dynamic oscillating protofield perturbations which, as part of their reduction-expansion behavior caused by protofield attraction, dynamically create space points at the rate of their oscillation frequency. Calculation gives an oscillation frequency of 10^20 Hz, which is backed by [1].
Reference
1. M. Gouanere, M. Spighel, N. Cue, M.J. Gaillard, R. Genre, R. Kirsch, J.C. Poizat, J. Remillieux, P. Catillon, L. Rourrel. Experimental observation compatible with the particle internal clock. http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-301/aflb301m416.pdf.
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Ben Baten wrote on Oct. 2, 2009 @ 03:28 GMT
Posted to keep material together, since it could be useful for other reader to read this in conjunction with my essay. This is based on my reply to Alan Schwartz' essay on the FQXi site.
I partly agree with the abstract of your essay, where you say:
"Gravitation and quantum mechanics are separately accurately predictive to the limits of observation but together are utterly incompatible. No contemporary quantum gravitation theory offers testable predictions."
There is a potential solution for those issues. QM becomes a somewhat realistic local theory when the paradoxical results from interference experiments are ignored.* Elements of this local theory were developed by de Broglie, without relying on abstract QM postulates [1]. According to de Broglie, an electron exhibits an oscillating behavior. This behavior has been experimentally confirmed [2]. On the other hand, GR is a rather global theory. It has oscillating (big bang - big crunch) solutions, which suggest temporarily local relativistic behavior. To my mind, the spatial oscillation allowed by GR is way too large. When an electron performs a local oscillation, then it unifies quantum and relativistic behavior in a single process. My essay covers some details. Please also consult the comments on the essay, which offer important additions and clarifications.
* Traditional QM does not say anything about photons and therefore, strictly, cannot say anything about photon interference. The 'non-local behavior' that supposedly occurs in (photons and massive particle) interference experiment requires an instantaneous (faster-than-light / non-physical) collapse of the wave function. This phenomenon remains to be explained in a different 'realistic' fashion.
References
1. L. de Broglie. Non-linear wave-mechanics – A causal interpretation.
2. M. Gouanere, M. Spighel, N. Cue, M.J. Gaillard, R. Genre, R. Kirsch, J.C. Poizat, J. Remillieux, P. Catillon, L. Rourrel. Experimental observation compatible with the particle internal clock. http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-301/aflb301m416.pdf.
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Ben Baten wrote on Oct. 3, 2009 @ 17:57 GMT
A link to
my website.
A summary slide deck of QFM and reports can be found under on Physics Articles page.
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Steve Dufourny wrote on Oct. 4, 2009 @ 11:39 GMT
Hello Mr Baten,
Congratulations for your website .
I have seen an article about photon matter interaction ,could you tell me more a little please ?
Best Regards
Steve
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Ben Baten wrote on Oct. 19, 2009 @ 17:53 GMT
Posted to keep material together, since it could be useful for other reader to read this in conjunction with my essay. This is based on my (slightly edited) reply to Stephen Wolfram's essay on the FQXi site.
Dear Stephen-
Thank your for your interesting essay, although I have a different opinion about the suitability of a computational approach to fundamental physics. Basically, I...
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Dear Stephen-
Thank your for your interesting essay, although I have a different opinion about the suitability of a computational approach to fundamental physics. Basically, I have similar concerns with many other posted essays, which have a computational, philosophical or formal character. Without strict adherence to nature for development of a unified theory of physics, right at initial considerations, this leads to an unbound search for such a theory and many speculative discussions.
In your essay, the suggested 'discrete machine' or computational approach relies on formal axiomatic theory. This is, in my opinion, unlikely to provide an accurate representation of nature. In principle, an infinite number of machines can be imagined. Without guiding principle to reduce this number, this leads, as mentioned before, to an unbound search problem. In addition, certain machines may produce output that, deceptively, resembles observed natural behavior, although the output may never a good representation of nature when observing it at a small enough scale. Within the computational approach, it also remains to be explained how machines are created.
From within a 'discrete machine world' you'll not be able to comprehend nor completely accurately represent the possibilities of the 'analog' world, which nature appears to be. Theorems applicable to the world of discrete machines are in general not generalizable to the analog world. In addition, time is implicitly present in the operation of a machine, which makes it impossible to explain physical time from within a machine.
From my perspective, it is far more efficient to start a search for a unified theory directly with already observed 'known to be true' physical properties. This dramatically limits the search effort. These physical properties must be represented in terms of a minimal coherent formalism. From this theory it should be demonstrated that all observed quantum and relativistic effects appear and correspond to observed behavior within currently measured accuracy. This is essentially what Quantum Field Mechanics (QFM) attempts to do (see my essay). In the 'analog world' of QFM, interaction gives rise to unceasing pulsating phenomena. These quantum beat processes exhibit wave-corpuscular behavior (as Louis de Broglie suggested) and can be interpreted as massive particles. The mentioned pulsation has a finite duration (10^(-20) sec for electrons) and short spatial jumps (with a size equal to the Compton wavelength). This results in dynamically emerging discrete space and time, although the two attracting fundamental fields from which this behavior arises are 'analog and continuous'. In this analog world, dynamically emerging behavior has no relation to discrete machines and does not require multiple universes.
I have provided an -overview- of this theory and some of its extensions in my essay. The references provide the in depth rationalization. A slide deck on my website provides an alternative description.
Thanks again for your essay.
Regards,
Ben Baten
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Ben Baten wrote on Oct. 19, 2009 @ 18:04 GMT
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Dear Philip, Jonathan Vos Post, Christine,
I enjoyed reading your essay. The introduction gives a good overview of the issues...
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Dear Philip, Jonathan Vos Post, Christine,
I enjoyed reading your essay. The introduction gives a good overview of the issues with current physics. I believe that these issues cannot be resolved without adopting a fundamentally different perspective. The incompatibility of Quantum Theory and General Relativity (GR), at very small scales, is an indication that both may have some have fundamental issues. According to MOND, GR is also not valid at galactic scales and beyond. Hardly anyone is seriously considering the possibility that GR (although mathematically elegant) could be invalid in some subtle way and inhibits unification. Obviously, current phenomena that are supposedly validate (not falsify) GR should then be rationalized in a different fashion. In the past, some people have provided alternative explanations, but they have not stuck.
From my perspective, since the early 1900s, the development of physics has taken a wrong turn. The pursued highly formal approach has resulted in all kinds of supposedly existing non-observed interaction particles like gravitons, gluons, and weak bosons. This 'discrete' approach does not provide a good foundation for development of a truly unified theory of physics.
The alternative 'continuous' approach is to appreciate the observed existence of four fundamental interactions and develop a reality-based theory based on this. This results in an interaction theory which shows the real existence of only massive particles and photons (no virtual particles). In this theory, space and time are discrete and dynamically emerging, which addresses some of the issues you discuss on page 5 of your essay wrt time intervals. It turns out that discreteness of space and time are extremely important elements to enable unification of quantum behavior and relativity. Time follows from a kind of periodic clock behavior of an oscillation quantum beat process, much in line with the original ideas of Louis de Broglie. A very short overview of the theory that covers this can be found in my essay (which admittedly includes some shortcuts, but all results are rationalized in the references). In this essay, I also provide some critical remarks about incompatibility of GR and quantum behavior. I would also like to point you to a slide deck on my website for another perspective. I don't expect many people to agree with this style of physics, because it goes against the current thinking of trying to solve unification by formalization.
I agree with many of Barbour's thoughts on time. However, where I fundamentally disagree is his idea that time does not exist. The non-existence is, in my opinion, based on formal manipulation of formulas without appreciating the physical origin of those formulas.
On page 6 you describe that the Schrodinger equation has unwelcome consequences for thermodynamic reversibility. Strictly, Schrodinger's non-potential equation holds for a free single massive particle (electron) and possibly also for a collection of free bound particles. The fact that Schrodinger's equation is time symmetric is a mathematical artifact, because it ignores the irreversibility of time at a more fundamental level (see QFM-II report on my website).
Thanks again for your essay.
Ben Baten
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Greetings,
I've downloaded your essay. It may take me a while to digest, but I will have comments before long.
All the Best,
Jonathan
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Hello again,
Yes, it was me above. Login expired, or maybe I had logged out. Back to you soon.
All the Best,
Jonathan
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Peter Jackson wrote on Oct. 29, 2009 @ 16:31 GMT
Ben
I've studied it and considered it and all it's implications very carefully. There's some good imaginative thinking there, and there's no solid disproof. But I'm now convinced you're riding slightly the wrong horse. That's not because it flies in the face of GR, I have no problem with that at all in pronciple, but it's because it doesn't resolve any of the big issues in physics or astronomy, and that's what we need to find. In this case we musn't be distracted by thheories that don't acheive that.
I say that with some confidence as the similar but critcally different field based Discreet Field Model (DFM) does exactly that, and is far more inductively provable.
Do you believe math alone can make EM waves (light) blue shift when it reaches a planet moving towards it's source? Do you beleive 'lateral waves' can actually exist in nature, without something actually moving, as well as just on an oscilloscope? Do you beleive the surface of an expanding light sphere stays exactly spherical when part of it moves into a galaxy moving relative to the space outside the galaxy. How could that possibly be so if it moves through the galaxy at 'c'. etc.
The answers to these are all derived simply from the DFM. I implore you to have a proper look and think about it. It was very hidden beneath my essay 'Perfect Symmetry' as I was testing the interest of self interested scientists in agendas other than their own! But you'll see from the posts just a few have had that eureka moment. Check it at http://vixra.org/abs/0909.0047
Bets wishes
Peter Jackson
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Hi Peter (part 1)-
Thanks for reading the essay in more detail and I appreciate the effort to understand it. You're one of the few people to provide feedback. I get the impression that people just vote without taking the time to really understand my essay. I can deduct this from scores varying from 1 to 10, both from the community and public, without leaving comments. I don't care so much...
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Hi Peter (part 1)-
Thanks for reading the essay in more detail and I appreciate the effort to understand it. You're one of the few people to provide feedback. I get the impression that people just vote without taking the time to really understand my essay. I can deduct this from scores varying from 1 to 10, both from the community and public, without leaving comments. I don't care so much about the scores, but hope that people start to look at QFM as a more seriously alternative and use it to question current physics.
In my opinion, there is something fundamentally wrong with the way current physics is pursued and is unlikely to lead a unification of theories. Unfortunately, I have not been able to indicate all reason in my essay and the description of QFM may lack full depth since I have used references. I will indicate a few more reasons below, but a full explanation can be found in an upcoming report.
Let me give my provide a response to your feedback and specifically dissect one of your main statements:
"But I'm now convinced you're riding slightly the wrong horse. That's not because it flies in the face of GR, I have no problem
with that at all in principle, but it's because it doesn't resolve any of the big issues in physics or astronomy, and that's what we need to find. In this case we must not be distracted by theories that don't achieve that."
1. The theory does not resolve the big issues of physics.
You know that unsuccessful attempts have been made to unify Quantum Mechanics and Relativity Theory. My essay describes an attempt that unifies quantum and relativistic behavior, but in a rather unconventional way. This can only be done if one adopts the (substantiated, see motivation of the existence equation (2.1)) view that there is a deeper level of physical reality such that the notions of space and time can clearly be substantiated. Space and time, which are more or less taken as a 4-dimensional background in current theory, are now provided with a transprarant physical interpretation and its is clear that
time is not a dimension (one cannot go backward). Without this understanding it is, in my view, impossible to unify theories of physics and to comprehend their limitations. Current theories are largely mathematical frameworks. An attempt to unify these theories, or provide something fundamentally better, without a reality-based approach results in a substantial degree of abstract guessing, which unfortunately pervades current physics.
In my essay, the quantum beat process (which performs oscillation and rotation) that massive particles execute unifies quantum and relativistic behavior, which is expressed by -h=-Edt+pdx, from which e.g. the Lorentz transformation and the fundamental equations of e/m theory follow (see my website for details). I think that this result is already remarkable: with little, physically motivated formalism a lot can be obtained: insight in the character of space, time, and the derivation of all main results of e/m theory from a basically quantum equation, i.e. -h=-Edt+pdx.* No other theory has been able to do this. Although the physical scale of these results is small, they resolve 'big issues'.
2. It flies in the face of GR.
Indeed, this follows from this theory. When Einstein developed GR, he used Special Relativity as a starting point, already being based on the assumption that space and time are all pervasive (global) and continuous. This led him to GR. I maintain that, based on Kirilyuk's fundamental work, the starting assumptions of GR are incorrect. In fact, according to QFM, the 'locality' of the quantum beat process in terms of local generation of discrete space points does not allow a global description of space as an omnipresent entity. Obviously, this is intuitively very strange. Protofields are omni-present, but space points are dynamically generated in the omni-present compound of protofields.
3. The theory does not resolve the big issues of astronomy (I assume you mean cosmology) If GR is not applicable to global scales according to QFM (see point 2 and MOND seems to suggest this as well), this implies that something is fundamentally wrong with current understanding of the cosmos and GR cannot be used as a basis for development of a unified theory of physics. This is a negative result, but indicates that a fundamental reassessment of physics may be required.
The issue of dark matter may be resolved in QFM (see Kirilyuk's work), yielding equations which resemble MOND.
4. We must not be distracted by theories that don't achieve solving the big issues.
I maintain that current physics is unable to explain the 'small issues' and therefore cannot explain the 'big issues'. QFM at least tries to tackle the big issues that are apparent at quantum scale, which results in a better view of the issues at a much larger scale.
Am I riding the wrong horse slightly? Is it imaginative? First of all, QFM is self-consistent. This can be checked by consulting the reports on my website or Kirilyuk's work. I have also critically assessed QFM against many other theories and observed phenomena and no other theory has given me a convincing solution for many of the serious issues that I raised. QFM appears to me a much better than the other alternatives being pursued, although I stay open for alternatives.
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Hi Peter (part 2)-
5. The 'do you believe questions' that you raise.
Obviously, math alone does not make something physics. I hope that you do not deduce this from my essay in which all behavior is obtained from the protofields and their interaction (which is better motivated in the notes associated with the essay on the website), and motion of perturbations in protofield. Also waves can only exist if there is 'something' moving. Current physics cannot say what is moving, it ignores the existence of something (aether = protofields). I will read your paper in detail. In general, I learn more from alternative views than current formal models, since the former often raise more interesting issues.
* Note that this equation was also obtained by David Bohm with a different interpretation of dt and dx and can also be found in other literature assuming continuous time. In the essay, I also refer to an experiment that appears to confirm the internal oscillation of electrons.
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Steve Dufourny wrote on Nov. 3, 2009 @ 12:22 GMT
Hi all ,
Dear Mr Jackson ,
Do you beleive the surface of an expanding light sphere stays exactly spherical when part of it moves into a galaxy moving relative to the space outside the galaxy. How could that possibly be so if it moves through the galaxy at 'c'. etc.?
???????? It is confused that .Don't complicate the simplicity .A real dynamic exists .The evolution is specific .
Could you elaborate a little please your words pragmatically ?
Regards
Steve
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