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A Physicist's View of the Universe: A Philosophical Approach by Israel Omar Perez
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Author Israel Omar Perez wrote on Jan. 19, 2011 @ 15:32 GMT
Essay Abstract
Without a doubt many problems in physics arise as a consequence of our philosophical conception of the reality. In this contribution however we endeavor to alleviate this scenario by putting forward a philosophical approach under which some of the most fundamental problems in modern physics might turn out to be fictitious. To accomplish such a task we propound that everything that exists must be made up of matter which not only makes up space and the universe but also is in constant change. For such reason the existence of total emptiness and material discontinuity are rejected. Here physical fields are assumed as a particular state of matter. And time is understood as the result of the intrinsic dynamics of the universe. Furthermore, the infiniteness of the universe is also discussed and its implications are briefly mentioned, e.g., the laws of conservation. Finally, the regularity of the physical laws is questioned. In summary four great problems (from the perspective of physics) are suggested to be deeply studied: (1) What is matter?, (2) Why does the universe change? (3) Is the universe infinite in extension? And (4) are there really regular (invariant) laws of physics?
Author Bio
Dr. Israel Perez obtained his Ph. D. in physics from the Center for Research and Advanced Studies (CINVESTAV) Mex. in 2010. Right now he is looking for a postdoctoral position. He has done research in experimental superconductivity and the history and philosophy of physics. He is mainly interested in the philosophy of space, time and matter. The present essay is a work written in simple language but with a very deep philosophical insight. So, the reader is warn not to read it superficially.
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John Merryman wrote on Jan. 20, 2011 @ 04:15 GMT
Israel,
That is a very well thought out and absorbingly written essay. I am pretty much in full agreement, with one minor caveat about the nature of space. I think you bounce up against this, with the idea that space is necessarily infinite, but by arguing it hasn't any physical properties and must not exist outside of reference to the matter filling it, you overlook the consequences of...
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Israel,
That is a very well thought out and absorbingly written essay. I am pretty much in full agreement, with one minor caveat about the nature of space. I think you bounce up against this, with the idea that space is necessarily infinite, but by arguing it hasn't any physical properties and must not exist outside of reference to the matter filling it, you overlook the consequences of nothing, ie. the properties of zero.
If space is nothing, it cannot be bound and thus is infinite, but it also, lacking physical properties, cannot be bent, curved, expanded, contracted, etc. This means that it is fundamentally flat. It is perfect equilibrium. All mass and energy, to the extent they are composed of opposing elements, are disequilibrium to this equilibrium. The fluctuations of the vacuum. So space is not only infinite, it is the absolute.
As for time, while I fully agree with your view, I think there is one point that is largely overlooked about the nature of time. Since I've made this argument many times on the FQXi blogs and was it the subject of my entry in the first FQXi contest, I'm posting this from one of those discussions: http://www.fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/813
The present doesn't move from past to future. The changing configuration of the present turns the future into the past. We don't travel the fourth dimension from yesterday to tomorrow. Tomorrow becomes yesterday because the earth rotates. Time is an effect of activity, not the fundamental basis for it.
Because time is an effect of motion, there cannot be a dimensionless point in time without actually freezing the motion creating time, thus a particle cannot be isolated from its activity, whether it's an electron or a car. A dimensionless point in time would be like taking a picture with the shutter speed set at zero.
Understanding time as going from past events to future makes sense if we examine these events in the past tense, but if we consider an event as it is occurring, it quickly recedes into the past, as succeeding events replace it and are then replaced to recede into the past as well.
We view past events as cause of future ones, but total input into any event cannot be determined prior to its occurrence. It is this sum potential which is cause and the events which actually occur that are effect. Thus future is cause and past is effect.
The concept of free will is meaningless in terms of the present moving from past to future, because we only exist at the moment of the present and cannot change the past, or affect the future. On the other hand, with time as an effect of motion, our input is integral to our circumstance. We affect our circumstance, as it affects us.
As an effect of motion, time is similar to temperature, being the sequence of changing configuration, as temperature is the level of activity. If similar clocks record different rates of change in different circumstances, it is due to the level of activity being increased or decreased and thus speeded up or slowed down. Not that these clocks travel different time vectors.
We don't travel into that probabilistic future of multiworlds. It is the actual collapsing of probabilities which is time. Future is cause. Past is effect.
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Israel replied on Jan. 20, 2011 @ 21:03 GMT
John
Thank you for your interest in my essay. First, I will comment something about the two first paragraphs and then the rest.
The tenets in which my essay is based are essentially: (1) the principle of no contradiction and (2) the idea that everything that exists must be material. The first principle (among other reasons) urged me to emphasize the importance of item (f) of my...
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John
Thank you for your interest in my essay. First, I will comment something about the two first paragraphs and then the rest.
The tenets in which my essay is based are essentially: (1) the principle of no contradiction and (2) the idea that everything that exists must be material. The first principle (among other reasons) urged me to emphasize the importance of item (f) of my essay, so that when one speaks in ordinary language one cannot contradicts oneself. Therefore, in my essay, I am not considering that space is nothing, because this goes against my second tenet. If space exists it must be made of some substance, if a field exists it must be made of some substance, and so on and so forth. Space under the principles I have stated cannot be nothing and at the same time exists. If you have checked the history of the number zero this is one of the arguments that ancient thinkers used to argue "How can zero exists if it represents vacuum, absence, nothing, etc.". Thus, in my proposal space is something made up of matter. Current theories consider that space is nothing and then is filled with matter and fields in agreement with your last words in your last paragraph
With respect to its infiniteness. I cannot guarantee that the material space is infinite, but the line of reasoning that I have followed led me to conclude that it must be infinite. Possibly based on other principles it will lead me to conclude that is finite.Since I am uncertain about this, I left it as one of the fundamental problems that physics should address.
With respect to time I agree with you in the fifth paragraph. A temporal point in current theories represents a moment of zero time.
You also mentioned the following: we only exist at the moment of the present... this line of reasoning seems to me as if time where a line constituted of events, like an empty film rolling which is filled with every occurring event, so in this sense one can talk about past, present and future. But this is exactly what I doubt and this is why I have raised the problem of causality as a fundamental problem. If the universe started with the Big Bang one is forced to ask: what caused the beginning of space and time? If there was not a Big Bang then things occur not by causes but by chance. And so we are being cheated by our psychological perception of time which is justified by memory.Someone who has no memory has no notion of time, but this is another story that I would like to treat in another moment.
I hope you are satisfied with my comments
cheers
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John Merryman replied on Jan. 21, 2011 @ 18:11 GMT
Israel,
Thank you for your detailed response. I'm not saying space is something more than what occupies it(though possibly something less), but consider the consequences of an infinite, eternal universe: All energy would settle into an equilibrium state and the only action would be inherent to the energy in that state, such that any disequilibrium or instability would cause it to collapse...
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Israel,
Thank you for your detailed response. I'm not saying space is something more than what occupies it(though possibly something less), but consider the consequences of an infinite, eternal universe: All energy would settle into an equilibrium state and the only action would be inherent to the energy in that state, such that any disequilibrium or instability would cause it to collapse to a degree the density would cause it to heat up and radiate back out as perturbations around this equilibrium. The result being an effectively overall flat space. It is only when space is defined as somehow finite that there can be some overall curvature to it. An infinite universe is flat because any curvature effect generated by the energy, no matter how large, is ultimately local and will average out against a larger context.
It should be noted though, that while CMBR is 2.73k, scientists have achieved temperatures down to a billionth of a degree, kelvin. So possibly space is not fully defined by the energy occupying it, since it seems the energy is as often defined by the space, but that's a bit of a chicken or egg issue. The real point is whether the universe began as a point and expanded out.
As for time, memory is a function of spatial perspective as well. An objective perspective is a contradiction. Multiple perspectives tend to neutralize one another, so an infinity of perspectives would be none. I think the same applies to temporal narrative as well. Often people have different views of situations which do not correspond. There is the assumption that there should be one true reality, but this reality is alot of intersecting perspectives. An example is that groups of people define themselves in terms of a narrative story. Religions and nations being the prime examples, but they end up conflicting with other group narratives in the larger cultural realm. The fact is that people's lives weave together as a tapestry in which the elements provide balance to one another, rather than are braided together in a single rope going in one direction. Time is this cumulative effect, not a singular direction. In fact, memories are often recycled and changed to create the current view of reality, much like substance is constantly changing.
I do think physics will eventually have to address some of its subconscious assumptions before it can go much further in understanding reality
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Anonymous replied on Jan. 22, 2011 @ 21:39 GMT
Dear John
Thank you for your reply. First I would like to make very clear something about my proposal. I shall try to be as clear as possible and I hope we do not have semantical problems. What I did was essentially based on "common sense" and my own experience in life and physics, but no more. Unfortunately, the size of the essay is limited and I had to fit this requirement, so many other...
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Dear John
Thank you for your reply. First I would like to make very clear something about my proposal. I shall try to be as clear as possible and I hope we do not have semantical problems. What I did was essentially based on "common sense" and my own experience in life and physics, but no more. Unfortunately, the size of the essay is limited and I had to fit this requirement, so many other important things were not published. I did a very deep reflexion of the universe and the essay was developed to be independent of any of the laws established by a particular theory (i.e. Newtonian dynamics, quantum mechanics, general relativity, string theory, electrodynamics, etc.) In this sense, I got rid of some of the prejudices that some of these theories create in our minds. Like for instance, the idea of the existence of atoms, the principle of energy conservation, the principle of relativity, the principle of equivalence, etc. So I started analyzing what I feel and observe from real life. What has been written there is pure philosophy that I expect most of the readers agree with. I am not being bias following a particular principle or approach from an established physical theory but by following the laws of logic (the principle of no contradiction, etc.).So, based on this, my reasonings led me to conclude that the universe has no beginning and no end in time and that space must be made up of something. If these conclusions contradicts the Big Bang theory or the principles of Quantum Mechanics or General relativity. Then we only have two options, or my reasonings and principles are wrong or some of the principles of these theories are wrong. I believe that if we really want to make a revolution in physics we have to make a radical change, this is why I proceeded like this.
Keeping this in mind I would make some comments about your post, in particular, the first two paragraphs. When you talk about flat or curved space, you are bearing in mind that the general relativity reflects the reality of space-time. When this theory is used in Cosmology it lead us to conclude that the universe had a beginning of time and a singularity (the Big Bang). But here I raised the question: (1) what was before the Big Bang, or (2) what caused the explosion? My proposal says that there is no beginning of time and therefore I am saying that there is something wrong with either the cosmological model or relativity, but if one believes in relativity because experiments support it one should doubt that my principles are correct.Also, you may reply to (1) that this question makes no sense since space and time started to exist at that moment, but what about (2), does it make sense?
I know a pair of theories that explain the same observed phenomena that the general relativity explains, although their principles and their philosophy are quite different, and therefore, they suggest us that perhaps there is no Big Bang, so, would you be able to entertain that the predictions of the general relativity are flawed? I hope you have a very open mind to consider this. If you are interested you may want to see this article:C. I. Christov, Math. Comput. Simul. 80, 91–101 (2009)
The apparent deflection of light rays (curvature of space) predicted by the General relativity can be seen by other approaches as a mere change of the refractive index of space (vacuum), provided that space is seen as a simple dielectric [Please see: Ye Hing-Hao and Lin Qiang: Inhomogeneous Vacuum: An Alternative Interpretation of Curved Spacetime}, Chin. Phys. Lett. 25, 1571 (2008)].
Similarly, I know a couple of theories that predict the same results as ordinary quantum mechanics, but they are not well known, one of them is Bohmnian quantum mechanics. So, depending on the choice of the theory you use you will arrived at different interpretations of reality.
As for time I agree with you, in particular in the following: Time is this cumulative effect, not a singular direction. I like this.
Israel
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John Merryman replied on Feb. 11, 2011 @ 18:31 GMT
Israel,
Sorry not to have replied earlier. I'm not sure how i missed your response. I think we are largely in agree ment that Big Bang theory is a serious mistake, growing from that assumption that space and time have physical properties which would allow them to be shaped. I go into a possible explanation for how light might otherwise be redshifted in my essay.
One of the various arguments I do use against Big Bang proponents is that the idea of space expanding from the singularity is belied by the fact that the speed of light is stable. In other words, while the metric defined by the redshift is presumably expanding, the metric defined by lightspeed is not. So if it's an expansion within a stable metric of space, we would have to be at the center of the universe for it to appear as it does.
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Feb. 12, 2011 @ 00:41 GMT
John
Thank you for your reply. I agree with you, I believe that astronomical data have been misinterpreted because models assume the speed of light to be a constant.This led to spurious conclusions. You may be interested in the papers of Christov, he suggests a possible explanation for the cause of the redshift. Here I attach them for you.
Kind Regards
attachments:
2008CChristov_WaveMotion_45_154_EvolutionWavePackets.pdf,
2008CChristov_AIP_978_3_SpaceMaterialContinuumCosmologicalRedshift.pdf
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John Merryman replied on Feb. 13, 2011 @ 04:37 GMT
Israel,
These are awesome links:
"Eq.(12)showsthataninitialdistributionoftheenergyasfun
ctionofkwillchangeintimeinthesensethatthe
amplitudesoftheshorterwaveswilldiminishfasterintimethantheam
plitudesofthelongerwaves.Thiswilllead
toredistributionoftheamplitudesandtoachangeoftheapodizationf
unctionofawavepacketthatissubjectto
evolutionaccordingtoJeffrey’sequation.Thereforeagenera
lshiftofthecentralwavenumbertowardslonger
waves(smallerwavenumbersk)istobeexpected.Inthecaseoflight,th
isiscalled‘‘redshift’’."
"Physically speaking, the effect is related to the fact that dissipation damps the higher
frequencies stronger and causes the maximal frequency of the packet to shift to lower
frequencies (longer wave lengths). The redshifting is a property of the packet. No actual
dilation of the different harmonics is needed as in Doppler effect. This means that even a
shghtest dissipation in the interstellar medium will result in a persistent (cosmological)
redshift of the light propagating throughout the Universe.
The important trait of the new model is that the Hubble constant depends on the initial
width of the spectral line investigated. Then, two sources, that are in a close proximity
in cosmological sense, can have different redshifts depending on the width, d, of the
spectral line (as represented by the parameter fi °^ d^^). A more active (hotter) source
(smaller /3 or wider spectral line) will appear to the observer as much more redshifted
than a more quieter (cooler) source (larger /3 or thinner spectral line). This conclusion is
in very good qualitative agreement with the actual experimental observations."
It makes me really scratch my head as to why the entire cosmological community is out chasing multiverses, when they need to be reviewing the details.
An interesting link Dan Benedict posted in his footnotes:
http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/pub/2007/9
/modern-cosmology-science-or-folktale/1
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Edwin Eugene Klingman wrote on Jan. 20, 2011 @ 06:40 GMT
Dear Israel,
An elegantly and beautifully written essay. I agree with almost everything that you say.
In item 15, you offer as one possibility, the idea that "M spontaneously came into being at total rest, and spontaneously started to move." I think your preferred argument is that motion has always existed, and will never end. In my theory, if the original 'substance' is the...
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Dear Israel,
An elegantly and beautifully written essay. I agree with almost everything that you say.
In item 15, you offer as one possibility, the idea that "M spontaneously came into being at total rest, and spontaneously started to move." I think your preferred argument is that motion has always existed, and will never end. In my theory, if the original 'substance' is the gravitational field, it's appearance at total rest would never allow it to do anything but collapse more tightly into itself. Therefore the assumption is that it 'hit the ground running'. The negative potential of gravity was counterbalanced by the positive kinetic energy of the 'explosion', allowing the possibility of a 'free lunch' universe that required no 'surplus' energy be created out of 'nothing'.
Recently fqxi'er Ray Munroe made me aware of Nottales 'scale invariance' which is equivalent to 'motion invariance', which in some ways eliminates 'time' until symmetry breaks. I have addressed this in my essay, which I hope you will find time to read. I think I have dealt with issues you are concerned with-- http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/799
As for item 16, especially option (2), I think that you might enjoy reading my previous essay in the 'Ultimate Limits of Physics' contest-- http://www.fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/561
Finally, item 17 states that if the whole universe is made up of one single entity, there are no arguments to propose dark energy and dark matter. I think I have a counter argument to that in my current essay.
I look forward to any response you might have.
Edwin Eugene Klingman
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Israel replied on Jan. 21, 2011 @ 01:18 GMT
Dear Edwin
Thank you for your comments and your kindly words about my work. I have read yours and I can see that we have several points in common.
To be honest I think that I require more background to fully understand your theory in particular the physical relevance of the fields C and G. You argue that the gravitational field is the only real thing. But from the perspective of my...
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Dear Edwin
Thank you for your comments and your kindly words about my work. I have read yours and I can see that we have several points in common.
To be honest I think that I require more background to fully understand your theory in particular the physical relevance of the fields C and G. You argue that the gravitational field is the only real thing. But from the perspective of my essay your field is just a state of matter. On the contrary, you may argue that the matter of my article can be seen as the manifestation of your field, so I think were are talking about the same idea with different names.
On the other hand, as you could figure out from my essay, I believe that the universe was not created out of nothing and out of no motion. So I am denying the existence of both total rest and total emptiness (seeing total emptiness as a synonymous of nothing). And when you talk about "explosion" I think that you have in mind that there was a Big Bang. Under my proposal the Big Bang is not fully acknowledged as something that really took place 13.7 billion of years ago, since this contradicts the idea that the universe has always existed, with no beginning and no end. If an explosion occurred, to me, it was just an explosion like the explosion of a supernova but it does not represent the beginning of space and time. Please see my previous post where I discuss something about this point with John Merryman.
In relation to item 16, I will take a look of your essay.
And for item 17, I think that the proposal of the existence of dark matter and dark energy resulted from one faulty assumption. In Newtonian dynamics, and no less in general relativity, space is seen as a container of material objects and the only mass that is accounted for in the calculations of these theories is the mass of the bodies (inertial or gravitational), but physicists neglect the mass of space, because they believe that space is not a material continuum, in fact, they know that vacuum is not empty after all, but they think that vacuum is just radiation or energy filling empty space, particularly, from gravitational and electromagnetic sources. When they compare the predictions with measurements, the results do not match and therefore they are forced to either propose dark matter and dark energy or manipulate the cosmological constant. Thus, if one assumes that space is a material continuum the physics is not the way current theories believe. If you are interested in the meaning of this, please read references 18-23 from my essay.
So if you have any comment, let me know.
Israel
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Edwin Eugene Klingman replied on Jan. 30, 2011 @ 02:56 GMT
Dear Israel,
I thought that I had replied to this thread, but I do not see it so I'll try again.
I suspect you are right that we are merely talking about the same thing with different names. I see reality as a field that distributed energy over all space and concentrates energy is locations we call matter, particularly mass. You could therefore say, I suppose, that the field is a...
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Dear Israel,
I thought that I had replied to this thread, but I do not see it so I'll try again.
I suspect you are right that we are merely talking about the same thing with different names. I see reality as a field that distributed energy over all space and concentrates energy is locations we call matter, particularly mass. You could therefore say, I suppose, that the field is a form of matter.
I do not know what preceded the field, so I do not speak of emptiness and do not have a conception of 'no motion'. I agree that 'explosion' is not a good word, but I do think that the Big Bang followed by inflation is the best way I've found to explain today's universe, so that's what I'm stuck with. I have tried, but I simply can't get my mind to grasp an 'always existing' universe with no beginning and no end. I understand the words, just as I understand the word infinity, but I can't make these words real to me. As I said, I don't know what was "before" the Big Bang, and I don't think we can know. I definitely don't believe in 'bouncing universes'. It makes more sense to me that time came into existence with our universe, so the question is not appropriate.
I'm still confused about your item 17, and your comments about it. As I see it, the gravitational field 'fills' space, in that there is no space that does not 'contain' gravity, and hence energy. I believe that the C-field (The Maxwell-Einstein gravito-magnetic field) is 31 orders of magnitude stronger than their simple derivation argued for, as Martin Tajmar and others seem to have measured, as as I have calculated, based on reasonable[?] assumptions. In this case there is more 'dark matter' from the stronger field, and also an inflationary effect due to the fact that the Lorentz force in such a field can produce an effect that is opposite to the local gravity.
Isn't it amazing that two people who think that they may be in agreement still have trouble deciding. [Except that we probably don't agree on the 'everlasting' universe...]
Edwin Eugene Klingman
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Anonymous replied on Feb. 1, 2011 @ 06:41 GMT
Dear Eckard
Yes it is easier to think that space and time started with the Big Bang and the question "what was before the Big Bang?" makes no sense. But the question "What caused the Big Bang?" does make sense. So, if one asks for a cause one is asking for something that preceded the Big Bang, and therefore one is talking about a past event. Think about this and you will realize that there...
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Dear Eckard
Yes it is easier to think that space and time started with the Big Bang and the question "what was before the Big Bang?" makes no sense. But the question "What caused the Big Bang?" does make sense. So, if one asks for a cause one is asking for something that preceded the Big Bang, and therefore one is talking about a past event. Think about this and you will realize that there is something strange with the principle of causality.
You: I'm still confused about your item 17, and your comments about it.
It is not clear to me in what sense you are confused. In that paragraph a new philosophy and a new paradigm is put forward. By analogy with string theory in which the fundamental blocks of nature are not the particles but the strings; thus in this new paradigm the notion of both waves and particles no longer exist, but only solitons which move over the material space. From here wave mechanics is derived. This approach also resolves the wave-particle duality, and the probabilistic interpretation of quantum mechanics. A charge within this new context can be seen as a state of a soliton. A positive amplitude of a soliton represents what in current theories is seen as matter and negative amplitudes are seen as antimatter. Also when solitons move they shorten, this explains the Lorentz contraction and time dilation. Maxwell equations as well as the Biot-Savart Law and Lorentz Force are derived. And the law of gravitation. Since in this theory space is seen as something material, there is no need to introduce dark matter to fill the Newtonian or the Einsteinian space. The effect of dark energy can be seen as a deformation of the material space. This is a theory that was developed based on the theory of fluid mechanics and elastic waves in media.
You: Isn't it amazing that two people who think that they may be in agreement still have trouble deciding. [Except that we probably don't agree on the 'everlasting' universe...]
Yes it is amazing, and I can justify this coincidence by the following. If mind is the result of the universe' evolution and the laws of nature are laws of logic, that one that applies logical and coherent statements should coincide with others that do the same; otherwise nature would be incoherent.
Best regards
Israel
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Pierre Loty wrote on Jan. 22, 2011 @ 13:58 GMT
1. Point N° 7: “time still flows because time is the intrinsic motion and change of the universe, motion or change can never stop”.
It is great that motion never stops because it could stop if decided upon. Time is relative to space; thus your description of time is a description of relative or spatial time. There is also reference time, which can exist independently of space, but that time...
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1. Point N° 7: “time still flows because time is the intrinsic motion and change of the universe, motion or change can never stop”.
It is great that motion never stops because it could stop if decided upon. Time is relative to space; thus your description of time is a description of relative or spatial time. There is also reference time, which can exist independently of space, but that time would be irrelevant for a particular space if the particular space was out of existence and therefore could no longer give clues to measure its time.
2. Point N° 7: “And a ruler is a material object we use to compare and delimit a particular length, without M, space would be meaningless too, for there would be nothing to relate the sizes. For such reason space itself should be a material continuum even if there were no ponderable objects to refer”.
Space could exist without M, but such space would be irrelevant from within the void because space serves to locate matter. Matter here is first of all a set of points. Points precede lengths. Points can be singular, referential. You seem to behave in an affine space (with length-like concepts) as if you were in a purely vector space (not relying on reference points).
3. Point N° 10: “In a similar way to the points of a circumference in which any arbitrarily chosen point can be the beginning of the circumference, in the same way occurs with the universe, the beginning or end is mere convention to delimit two major events”.
The lesson in this illustration of a circumference seems to be that the universe has no beginning. I disagree.
A circumference is a derived notion, the underlying notions being the reference point and any relative point. Thus, the circumference is a set of points emerging from a reference point. The beginning of the circumference is the center. Thus, the lesson of your illustration is that the Beginning can give way to new entities of which He is not direct part.
4. N° 12: “It follows that the universe must be infinite in extension”. Here you say the universe is infinite. I agree because if our thinking allows us to perceive infinity, there could also be One with the ability to materialize what we merely aspire to reach. Power precedes intelligence.
5. N° 13: “From the previous reflections it follows that there is only one universe.” There could be a spiritual universe next to a physical universe with no obvious link between the two universes.
It is possible for a given entity to switch states without motion. Geometric conformations of molecules show the same molecule in different states. We cannot obtain one conformation from another conformation through motion. Such molecular states just happen to be. Therefore entities could switch states from one reality to the other without necessarily moving.
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Author Israel Omar Perez wrote on Jan. 22, 2011 @ 23:15 GMT
Dear Pierre
Time is relative to space; thus your description of time is a description of relative or spatial time. There is also reference time, which can exist independently of space.
Forgive me but it is not clear to me what you mean by "time is relative to space" and what you mean by "reference time" Could you please rewrite or extend your comments.
2. Point N° 7: “And a...
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Dear Pierre
Time is relative to space; thus your description of time is a description of relative or spatial time. There is also reference time, which can exist independently of space.
Forgive me but it is not clear to me what you mean by "time is relative to space" and what you mean by "reference time" Could you please rewrite or extend your comments.
2. Point N° 7: “And a ruler is a material object we use to compare and delimit a particular length, without M, space would be meaningless too, for there would be nothing to relate the sizes. For such reason space itself should be a material continuum even if there were no ponderable objects to refer”.
Space could exist without M, but such space would be irrelevant from within the void because space serves to locate matter. Matter here is first of all a set of points. Points precede lengths. Points can be singular, referential. You seem to behave in an affine space (with length-like concepts) as if you were in a purely vector space (not relying on reference points).
Well, from my view space is made up of matter, therefore matter serves to locate matter. My view of space is as a material continuum which follows the laws of fluid mechanics. And I think that points do not precede length. A length is not constituted of points, but of infinitesimal lengths. This is so because a point is adimensional, that is, its length is zero. Therefore something that has a length cannot be constituted of things that do not have length.
3. Point N° 10: “In a similar way to the points of a circumference in which any arbitrarily chosen point can be the beginning of the circumference, in the same way occurs with the universe, the beginning or end is mere convention to delimit two major events”.
The lesson in this illustration of a circumference seems to be that the universe has no beginning. I disagree.
A circumference is a derived notion, the underlying notions being the reference point and any relative point. Thus, the circumference is a set of points emerging from a reference point. The beginning of the circumference is the center. Thus, the lesson of your illustration is that the Beginning can give way to new entities of which He is not direct part.
The use of a circumference was just to try to express an analogy so the reader understand my ideas. Please do not take it literally. Sometimes it is hard to express what one feels and thinks because we all humans have different educational and social backgrounds and levels of sensations. For instance, 30 celcius degrees may be for you hot but for others not.
The main idea here is that what I did suggests that the universe has no beginning of time. If you do not agree with this I would be grateful if you let me know your arguments.
4. N° 12: “It follows that the universe must be infinite in extension”. Here you say the universe is infinite. I agree because if our thinking allows us to perceive infinity, there could also be One with the ability to materialize what we merely aspire to reach. Power precedes intelligence.
Well in fact, I have followed the principle of induction to conclude that the universe must be infinite, but since, so far, I cannot prove it, I leave it as a fundamental problem to be solved. I think that it is more important to understand what we mean by "infinite".
5. N° 13: “From the previous reflections it follows that there is only one universe.” There could be a spiritual universe next to a physical universe with no obvious link between the two universes.
In paragraph 13, I also said in parenthesis "or of whatever nature" this includes a spiritual universe. If a spiritual universe exists it must either interact or have some influence with the physical one, otherwise it would be meaningless for humans; and like the mathematical universe, it is just invented by my being. So, if one considers that a spiritual universe exists it must be part of the physical universe or viceversa, therefore there is only one universe, possibly made of two parts the physical and the spiritual. When you say "with no obvious link" you may be saying that the interaction is not simple and direct, that under certain requirements one can have access to the spiritual universe.
It is possible for a given entity to switch states without motion. Geometric conformations of molecules show the same molecule in different states. We cannot obtain one conformation from another conformation through motion. Such molecular states just happen to be. Therefore entities could switch states from one reality to the other without necessarily moving.
Yes, you are right if you conceive motion as an act of changing position of an object as time goes by. But in this case I am referring to the wider concept of movement or motion, i.e., as the act of changing, no matter if what changes is position or a state, or whatever.
Good luck in the contest
Israel
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Pierre Loty wrote on Jan. 24, 2011 @ 08:20 GMT
Point N° 7:
“Well, from my view space is made up of matter, therefore matter serves to locate matter. My view of space is as a material continuum which follows the laws of fluid mechanics. And I think that points do not precede length. A length is not constituted of points, but of infinitesimal lengths. This is so because a point is adimensional, that is, its length is zero. Therefore something that has a length cannot be constituted of things that do not have length.”
Let us assume a length is not constituted of points, but of infinitesimal lengths. Let us consider two such infinitesimal lengths. An obvious operation would be to place one length next to the other, the result being a new length. The question then arises: where does the first length end and where does the second length begin? It is safe to say the first length ends where the second one starts, because the lengths are contiguous. Therefore, the end of the first length is the beginning of the second length. The two lengths intersect. The intersection has no length because the two lengths are contiguous. Thus the intersection of two contiguous lengths is a point. Here, points are part of lengths. In other words lengths are made up of points. Therefore something that has a length can be described relative to some reference: points.
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Jan. 24, 2011 @ 17:47 GMT
Dear Loty
I agree with you that the ends of a length are points and that you can find infinitely many points in a length. Points only indicate where a length ends or where two lines intersect, that's all. But if you agree with me that a point is adimensional and that something adimensional has length equal to zero, then you are contradicting yourself by saying that a length is made up of things (points) with zero length. Thinking this way is the same reasoning of Zeno of Elea with his famous paradoxes like the arrow or the dichotomy. If you believe that lengths are constituted of points (of zero length) and that time intervals are constituted of instants (of zero duration) you will arrive at these paradoxes. Please take a look at Zeno's paradoxes.
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Eckard Blumschein replied on Jan. 24, 2011 @ 19:04 GMT
Dear Israel,
My essay will support your opinion concerning the point/line issue. Are you aware that Loty's position corresponds to presently mandatory mathematics?
Thank you for the link you gave to me elsewhere. Did you already comment on Peter Jackson's essay? Aren't his ideas in part similar to yours?
Eckard
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Jan. 25, 2011 @ 06:16 GMT
Dear Eckard
Thank you for your comment. Yes I am aware of that. In fact, I used to be in that position, that is what one learns while in school and in the long term it becomes a prejudice which is really hard to get rid of it. This is why one must be critical about the perception of the word. What others do is most of the times reliable just to a certain extent.
I have read Jackson's essay but although at first sight they appear similar at a deeper level may not. I have given some comments about this in my reply to Peter below. Please take a look.
By the way, I haven't read yours, I've been looking for it; where is it?
Israel
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Cristinel Stoica wrote on Jan. 24, 2011 @ 10:02 GMT
Dear Israel,
I enjoyed reading your essay, which shows that profound reasonings can be made without being prisoner of a particular mathematical representation of the Universe. I am interested myself in this aspect, and I developed a mathematical structure that can be used to say general things without being tied to a particular theory. Anyway, my essay is about something else.
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Dear Israel,
I enjoyed reading your essay, which shows that profound reasonings can be made without being prisoner of a particular mathematical representation of the Universe. I am interested myself in this aspect, and I developed a
mathematical structure that can be used to say general things without being tied to a particular theory. Anyway, my essay is about
something else.
Best wishes,
Cristi
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Jan. 25, 2011 @ 07:28 GMT
Dear Cristinel
Thank you for your comments, I appreciate them. I would like to quote something that I wrote some posts above:
I would like to make very clear something about my proposal. I shall try to be as clear as possible and I hope we do not have semantical problems. What I did was essentially based on "common sense" and my own experience in life and physics, but no more....
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Dear Cristinel
Thank you for your comments, I appreciate them. I would like to quote something that I wrote some posts above:
I would like to make very clear something about my proposal. I shall try to be as clear as possible and I hope we do not have semantical problems. What I did was essentially based on "common sense" and my own experience in life and physics, but no more. Unfortunately, the size of the essay is limited and I had to fit this requirement, so many other important things were not published. I did a very deep reflexion of the universe and the essay was developed to be independent of any of the laws established by a particular theory (i.e. Newtonian dynamics, quantum mechanics, general relativity, string theory, electrodynamics, etc.) In this sense, I got rid of some of the prejudices that some of these theories create in our minds. Like for instance, the idea of the existence of atoms, the principle of energy conservation, the principle of relativity, the principle of equivalence, etc. So I started analyzing what I feel and observe from real life. What has been written there is pure philosophy that I expect most of the readers agree with. I am not being bias following a particular principle or approach from an established physical theory but by following the laws of logic (the principle of no contradiction, induction, etc.).So, based on this, my reasonings led me to conclude that the universe has no beginning and no end in time and that space must be made up of something. If these conclusions contradicts the Big Bang theory or the principles of Quantum Mechanics or General relativity. Then we only have two options, or my reasonings and logical principles are flawed or some of the principles of these theories are wrong. I believe that if we really want to make a revolution in physics we have to make a radical change, this is why I proceeded like this.
I hope that you agreed. Please feel free to make any comment.
On the other hand I have read your essay which was written quite coherently and intelligibly. However I do not consider myself a good theoretician. As stated in my bio I am more an experimentalist or philosopher than theoretician; and I am afraid I need more mathematical background to fully understand the technical arguments you have developed. Forgive me for not to provide you with an appropriate feedback.
What is quite clear to me is your geometrical or topological approach to solve the problem. I can suggest you another approach from the theory of fluid mechanics, you may be interested, I have attached it below.
Good luck in the contest
Israel
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Cristinel Stoica replied on Jan. 25, 2011 @ 21:07 GMT
Dear Israel,
You may say that your conclusions contradict General Relativity or Big Bang or Quantum Mechanics. My own experience taught me that often, but not always, what appears to be a contradiction at first sight, at a second, or third, or thousand sight may turn out to be just a way things complement each other.
For example, if you think that your 10 contradicts the possibility of the Big Bang, then you may ponder on Penrose's
Conformal Cyclic Cosmology. Another possibility is that, even with the Big Bang as it is usually considered, the universe appears 13-14 billions years old in some proper time, but we can use a different time scale, a la Zeno, so that the Big Bang is moved in the past infinity. This idea is counterintuitive, but it becomes easier to grasp after playing a while with
coordinate systems in the
FLRW model.
Best regards,
Cristi
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Jan. 26, 2011 @ 00:38 GMT
Dear Cristi,
I agree with your first paragraph. Sometimes things may be complementary and not contradictory, the degree of contradiction may depend on the principles one bases the theories or the arguments.
As to the second paragraph I have taken a look of Conformal Cyclic Cosmology which is essentially based on the FLRW metric; the latter being one of the solutions of general...
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Dear Cristi,
I agree with your first paragraph. Sometimes things may be complementary and not contradictory, the degree of contradiction may depend on the principles one bases the theories or the arguments.
As to the second paragraph I have taken a look of Conformal Cyclic Cosmology which is essentially based on the FLRW metric; the latter being one of the solutions of general relativity. This is what I mean by principles. Under other principles (different theories than relativity) other conclusions may be drawn. Unfortunately, they are neither known nor accepted. The fact that they are not known or accepted does not mean they are wrong. Perhaps you may be interested in knowing one of these approaches. It is attached in the post below where I replied to Peter.
Kind Regards
Israel
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Cristinel Stoica replied on Jan. 26, 2011 @ 08:47 GMT
Dear Israel,
I see that you think that "space must be made up of something". This puts you in a good company, to name only Maxwell from the "classics", but also many contemporary physicists. In this line, I am aware of alternatives of General Relativity based on models from mechanics of fluid or elastic media, or with various kinds of ether. They may be true, or at least they may capture some essential features of the world.
As a personal experience, by trying to grasp the idea that "space must be made up of something", I couldn't go beyond the conclusion that, if space needs to be made of "something", that "something" must be made in its turn of "something2" and so on. Knowing from your essay that you are aware of the pitfalls of circular reasoning, I assumed that you have an internal representation of this "something" which satisfies your own exigences, so I did not question your conclusion.
Knowing that I am just a human being, with no capacity of knowing the true nature of things, I am happy to understand as much as I can from the relations between them. For me, these relations are logical enough when can be put in mathematical form. Even these relations I can't perceive as they really are, but only from my own limited, subjective viewpoint. And they require already much speculation, so going beyond them, to search the substance from which they are made, would be too much for me. I don't think we can study that substance, only our interactions with it, hence the relations. Please understand that I am just telling you what I am trying to do, and I am not implying that you should do the same.
The two examples I gave you in my previous comment were not meant to appeal to General Relativity to contradict your conclusion that time is infinite, by contrary, I intended to show with them that even the Big Bang as it is understood in cosmological models based on General Relativity, is compatible with an infinite history.
Best regards,
Cristi
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Anonymous replied on Jan. 26, 2011 @ 21:22 GMT
Dear Cristi
Thank you for your reply. Indeed you may classify me with those who believe in the aether. But there is a philosophical difference with Maxwell's view. Maxwell had a Newtonian notion of space, he believed that space existed as a vessel or container for bodies, and independent of them. Therefore, he also believed that the aether was filling space. In this sense space was for him...
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Dear Cristi
Thank you for your reply. Indeed you may classify me with those who believe in the aether. But there is a philosophical difference with Maxwell's view. Maxwell had a Newtonian notion of space, he believed that space existed as a vessel or container for bodies, and independent of them. Therefore, he also believed that the aether was filling space. In this sense space was for him something with no material properties. This belief can be still found today. Some physicists believe that space exists (or a background) and they fill it with the Higgs field or any other, certainly the context is quite different but the idea is almost the same. In contrast, I am saying that the aether, the vacuum, the space, the ubiquitous field are the same thing. I am not filling nothing. The notion of field that I have in mind is just a state of that subtle matter in the sense of Maxwell and some of this kind. On the other hand, currently most physicists think of a field as a quantity that varies in space and time and carries momentum and energy with independent reality of matter (of the standard model) and space and time. This notion is the legacy of mainly Oliver Heaviside and Einstein.
You: I couldn't go beyond the conclusion that, if space needs to be made of "something", that "something" must be made in its turn of "something2" and so on.
I: Yes I have an internal representation, and my argument is simple: Since I am saying that space is made up of matter, I cannot say, "so on" (please see the paradox of Aristotle in my essay). Matter cannot be made up of another thing, it is just made up of matter and that is it. I am considering matter as a primordial entity or substance.
You: Knowing that I am just a human being, with no capacity of knowing the true nature of things, I am happy to understand as much as I can from the relations between them. For me, these relations are logical enough when can be put in mathematical form. Even these relations I can't perceive as they really are, but only from my own limited, subjective viewpoint. And they require already much speculation, so going beyond them, to search the substance from which they are made, would be too much for me. I don't think we can study that substance, only our interactions with it, hence the relations. Please understand that I am just telling you what I am trying to do, and I am not implying that you should do the same.
I: I definitely agree with this paragraph. O. Heaviside said almost the same as you. He mentioned that one could only make conjectures of the nature of that primordial substance (aether) but one could never know its real nature. Believing or not in that substance has many implications in the logical consistency of a mathematical model that, in spite of its limitations, the model could be a better approach to reality than others, like for instance general relativity.
You: The two examples I gave you in my previous comment were not meant to appeal to General Relativity to contradict your conclusion that time is infinite, by contrary, I intended to show with them that even the Big Bang as it is understood in cosmological models based on General Relativity, is compatible with an infinite history.
I: Well, yes and no. This is why I have emphasized that one should be coherent as much as possible in both ordinary (baggage) and mathematical language (points c and f of my essay). Strictly speaking the Big Bang model says that there is a beginning of space and time and the question "what was or happened before the Big Bang?" is not legitimate. It cannot be asked. In this sense there is a contradiction with my essay. If one appeals to the Conformal Cyclic Cosmology it may not be the case.
You also argue that one can play with the coordinates and change the scale of time to the past infinity, but if you do this you will probably contradict the observations based on nucleosyntesis, etc. and the whole model will be in problems.
As an ad: Very recently I have been analyzing the physics of the Special Relativity (SR) and Maxwell electrodynamics. And I think I have found a serious paradox that clearly suggest that electrodynamics is not compatible with SR concerning the exclusion of a privileged frame. As you may recall electrodynamics was formulated to be valid in a privileged frame of reference. Right now I am working in this paradox that if I succeed, it would make us entertain the validity of SR. If you are interested in this we may keep in touch to discuss these matters beyond this forum.
Israel
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Jan. 27, 2011 @ 18:37 GMT
Dear Cristi
I made a little mistake. In the first paragraph of my last replied I wrote:
...I am not filling nothing.
The correct is: I am not filling anything.
Sorry
Israel
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Edwin Eugene Klingman replied on Jan. 30, 2011 @ 03:14 GMT
Cristi,
In general I agree with your discussion of 'circular reasoning' about what 'fills space'. But in my earlier essay
Fundamental Physics of Consciousness I asked, Upon what must a fundamental theory of physics be based?
"This question, if asked of humans, should be formulated in terms of human reality, not abstract formulations. Either it is based on directly and immediately sensed reality or it is based on some abstraction that is claimed to represent reality. Current theories are based on physics abstractions such as:
Gravity, String theories, Electromagnetics, Quantum field theories, Strong and weak forces, Dark matter and energy, Extra dimensions, Extra universes, Consciousness
Of these, only two, gravity and consciousness, are immediately sensible and directly experienced by humans. I am directly aware of gravity and I am directly aware that I am conscious. I have no direct, immediate, awareness of any other physics on the list (with the exception of a small range of electromagnetic radiation)."
For this reason, that of direct perception, I move gravity from the 'abstract' level, which must in turn be justified, as you say, by a 'lower abstraction' (in the sense of a 'more fundamental' abstraction.)
This seems to me to me reasonable, and I employ this logic in my essays.
Thanks for the stimulating conversations.
Edwin Eugene Klingman
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Anonymous wrote on Jan. 24, 2011 @ 12:01 GMT
“Time is relative to space; thus your description of time is a description of relative or spatial time. There is also reference time, which can exist independently of space.
Forgive me but it is not clear to me what you mean by "time is relative to space" and what you mean by "reference time" Could you please rewrite or extend your comments.”
It is commonly agreed: c = d/t or c t...
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“Time is relative to space; thus your description of time is a description of relative or spatial time. There is also reference time, which can exist independently of space.
Forgive me but it is not clear to me what you mean by "time is relative to space" and what you mean by "reference time" Could you please rewrite or extend your comments.”
It is commonly agreed: c = d/t or c t = d
Where d is relative to location (space), c is assumed constant and t is time. Therefore, there is a relationship between time and a given measure of space. If matter M is observed moving in a 3-dimension space, then there is variation of d (length-or-space-related variable) therefore variation of time t (since the speed c is assumed constant). If we force ourselves within a 1-dimension space to observe matter M, time viewed from the 1-dimension space could be immobile if we assume the movement happens within a 2-dimension hyperplane (in the 1-dimension space, we have: d = 0) and c is constant. Therefore, time in 3-dimension space is reference time because it can flow even when time in 1-dimension space does not flow.
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Pierre Loty wrote on Jan. 24, 2011 @ 13:05 GMT
“Time is relative to space; thus your description of time is a description of relative or spatial time. There is also reference time, which can exist independently of space.
Forgive me but it is not clear to me what you mean by "time is relative to space" and what you mean by "reference time" Could you please rewrite or extend your comments.”
It is commonly agreed: c = d/t or c t...
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“Time is relative to space; thus your description of time is a description of relative or spatial time. There is also reference time, which can exist independently of space.
Forgive me but it is not clear to me what you mean by "time is relative to space" and what you mean by "reference time" Could you please rewrite or extend your comments.”
It is commonly agreed: c = d/t or c t = d
Where d is relative to location (space), c is assumed constant and t is time. Therefore, there is a relationship between time and a given measure of space. If matter M is observed moving in a 3-dimension space, then there is variation of d (length-or-space-related variable) therefore variation of time t (since the speed c is assumed constant). If we force ourselves within a 1-dimension space to observe matter M, time viewed from the 1-dimension space could be immobile if we assume the movement happens within a 2-dimension hyperplane (in the 1-dimension space, we have: d = 0) and c is constant. Therefore, time in 3-dimension space is reference time because it can flow even when time in 1-dimension space does not flow.
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Jan. 24, 2011 @ 23:46 GMT
Dear Pierre
I am sorry but I do not understand what you mean. I am not sure under what theoretical framework you are founding your arguments. Is it in Newtonian kinematics? Special Relativity? General Relativity? N-dimensional manifolds?
I do not know what to tell you.
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Pierre Loty wrote on Jan. 24, 2011 @ 15:27 GMT
Point N° 10
“The main idea here is that what I did suggests that the universe has no beginning of time. If you do not agree with this I would be grateful if you let me know your arguments.”
Concerning the time when the universe began, I will quote a well circulated publication showing the universe was once a singularity.
If there strong indication about this, I can say the...
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Point N° 10
“The main idea here is that what I did suggests that the universe has no beginning of time. If you do not agree with this I would be grateful if you let me know your arguments.”
Concerning the time when the universe began, I will quote a well circulated publication showing the universe was once a singularity.
If there strong indication about this, I can say the universe started at that time it was a singularity. The circular reasoning saying “what happened before the singularity?” is not relevant. If you were asked about your birth date and you insisted upon knowing your complete genealogy in order to recognize the date given by your mother, such reasoning would be circular, exaggerated. In the same way a very small universe was the Genesis of significant developments.
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“Evidence Pointing to a Beginning
All the individual stars you see are in the Milky Way galaxy. Until the 1920’s, that seemed to be the only galaxy. You probably know, though, that observations with larger telescopes have since proved otherwise. Our universe contains at least 50,000,000,000 galaxies. We do not mean 50 billion stars—but at least 50 billion galaxies, each with billions of stars like our sun. Yet it was not the staggering quantity of huge galaxies that shook scientific beliefs in the 1920’s. It was that they are all in motion.
Astronomers discovered a remarkable fact: When galactic light was passed through a prism, the light waves were seen to be stretched, indicating motion away from us at great speed. The more distant a galaxy, the faster it appeared to be receding. That points to an expanding universe!
Even if we are neither professional astronomers nor amateurs, we can see that an expanding universe would have profound implications about our past—and perhaps our personal future too. Something must have started the process—a force powerful enough to overcome the immense gravity of the entire universe. You have good reason to ask, ‘What could be the source of such dynamic energy?’
Although most scientists trace the universe back to a very small, dense beginning (a singularity), we cannot avoid this key issue: “If at some point in the past, the Universe was once close to a singular state of infinitely small size and infinite density, we have to ask what was there before and what was outside the Universe. . . . We have to face the problem of a Beginning.”—Sir Bernard Lovell.
This implies more than just a source of vast energy. Foresight and intelligence are also needed because the rate of expansion seems very finely tuned. “If the Universe had expanded one million millionth part faster,” said Lovell, “then all the material in the Universe would have dispersed by now. . . . And if it had been a million millionth part slower, then gravitational forces would have caused the Universe to collapse within the first thousand million years or so of its existence. Again, there would have been no long-lived stars and no life.”
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Jan. 24, 2011 @ 18:56 GMT
Dear Pierre
First I would like to make very clear something about my proposal. I shall try to be as clear as possible and I hope we do not have semantical problems. In the last part of the introduction of my essay I say:
...And I think that another way of growing our understanding of the universe cannot only be attained by abstract theories and experimental observations but by...
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Dear Pierre
First I would like to make very clear something about my proposal. I shall try to be as clear as possible and I hope we do not have semantical problems. In the last part of the introduction of my essay I say:
...And I think that another way of growing our understanding of the universe cannot only be attained by abstract theories and experimental observations but by philosophical reasoning as well.
I must warn the reader that the proposal to be developed in the following pages does not stand somewhat allied to the established corpus of physics,but, however, it can be of great aid to get to the bottom of some of the most
fundamental puzzles in physics.
So, what I did was essentially based on "common sense" and my own experience in life and physics, but no more. Unfortunately, the size of the essay is limited and I had to fit this requirement, so many other important things were not published. I did a very deep reflexion of the universe and the essay was developed to be independent of any of theory (i.e. Newtonian dynamics, quantum mechanics, general relativity, string theory, electrodynamics, etc.) and any assumed or established experimental result. In this sense, I got rid of some of the prejudices that some of these theories create in our minds. Like for instance, the idea of the existence of atoms, the principle of energy conservation, the principle of relativity, the principle of equivalence, etc. So I started analyzing what I feel and observe from real life. What has been written there is pure philosophy that I expect most of the readers agree with. I am not being bias following a particular principle or approach from an established physical theory but by following only the laws of logic (the principle of no contradiction, induction, etc.).So, based on this, my reasonings led me to conclude that the universe has no beginning and no end in time and that space must be made up of something. If these conclusions contradict the Big Bang theory or the principles of Quantum Mechanics or General relativity. Then we only have two options, or my reasonings and principles are wrong or some of the principles of these theories are wrong. I believe that if we really want to make a revolution in physics we have to make a radical change, this is why I proceeded like this.
Therefore when you speak of the beginning of time and the Big Bang you are basing your arguments not on your own conception of the universe but on the conception imposed by the cosmological models which are essentially based on the general relativity. This being said, I would like to make a comment about the following paragraphs you wrote and that I believe they suffer from the same pathology:
Astronomers discovered a remarkable fact: When galactic light was passed through a prism, the light waves were seen to be stretched, indicating motion away from us at great speed. The more distant a galaxy, the faster it appeared to be receding. That points to an expanding universe!
Even if we are neither professional astronomers nor amateurs, we can see that an expanding universe would have profound implications about our past—and perhaps our personal future too. Something must have started the process—a force powerful enough to overcome the immense gravity of the entire universe. You have good reason to ask, ‘What could be the source of such dynamic energy?’
These two paragraphs are essentially based on the general relativity and the astronomical observations based on the constancy of the speed of light and therefore in the red shift. The red shift can be caused by the receding of light sources but under other theories can only be caused by the presence of a material medium concentrated between the source and the observer. Therefore under the current accepted theories (accepted does not mean they are correct) the universe appears to be expanding and accelerating. Under other theories, which most probably you do not know because they are not widely known, the universe appears to be static (see for instance the steady model of the universe of Fred Hoyle, there are more approaches which I can provide you if you are interested, or you can check them yourself at wikipedia in cosmological models).
So, if you have gotten my view, I think you should reconsider your own conception of the universe letting aside any theory and any external influence. Thus, in the case of the Big Bang, it is senseless to ask: What happened before the singularity? Because under the cosmological model there was no time before the singularity. But it would be legitimate to ask: What caused the explosion? In this question, if we believe in the principle of causality (or the principle of sufficient reason, the cause precedes the effect), it is implicit that there must have existed something before the singularity to cause the explosion, because it is a common belief that something cannot happen by chance, if this were the case, then the principle of causality would be wrong.
I hope you have understood these points. Please feel free to make a comment.
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Peter Jackson wrote on Jan. 24, 2011 @ 20:50 GMT
Dear Israel
I am impressed and inspired by your excellent essay, which may be no surprise as I found it almost the precise philosophical equivalent of my own, rather more mundane and down to earth offering.
I agree with almost all, though may now be able to add an interesting 1.3 to your Universe derivation options. Actually this has similarities to the 'big crunch', and it is that...
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Dear Israel
I am impressed and inspired by your excellent essay, which may be no surprise as I found it almost the precise philosophical equivalent of my own, rather more mundane and down to earth offering.
I agree with almost all, though may now be able to add an interesting 1.3 to your Universe derivation options. Actually this has similarities to the 'big crunch', and it is that it is effectively recycled. I can expand if you wish but it's part of the below;
Your reference to Hau & Quiang was very helpful as I'd failed to find and cite their work, which is very remiss as you'll see if you can find time to read my essay (2020 vision).
I belive it meets your a-f requirements. What I hope I can also do however is provide the key to proving your postulate, and the one matter you did not fully square up to - the constancy of 'c' irrespective of the motion of the observer, which is why AE had to 'stipulate' no 'M field' for SR.
This allows both reality and locality, providing a quantum mechanism for SR, similarly to Hau, and also Stokes so long ago. I suspect you may be one of the few who may understand the discrete field model proposed. (which also leads to the recycled universe).
I feel far less alone now. I'd very much appreciate your views.
Many thanks,
Peter Jackson
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Jan. 25, 2011 @ 05:53 GMT
Dear Peter
Thank you for your interest in my essay. I have read yours which appears quite interesting. I would like to be honest and remark some deep differences that I could not express in my essay due to limitations of size. I will quote the following paragraphs of your essay to make a comment.
You: Yet we know light moves at c both across deep space and through galaxies...
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Dear Peter
Thank you for your interest in my essay. I have read yours which appears quite interesting. I would like to be honest and remark some deep differences that I could not express in my essay due to limitations of size. I will quote the following paragraphs of your essay to make a comment.
You: Yet we know light moves at c both across deep space and through galaxies irrespective of their motion.
We must be clear that this does not require 'ether', that there is no 'absolute' space, and that the Principle of Relativity & postulates of SR all apply;
The laws of physics are the same in all inertial frames and the measured propagation speed of light is always c.
I: In current accepted theories c is considered a constant but you may be interested in the following articles:(1) A. Einstein, Ann. Phys. 35 898 (1911), (2) A. Einstein, Ann. Phys. 49 769 (1916).(3) Ye Hing-Hao and Lin Qiang, Chin. Phys. Lett. 25 1571 (2008).
In (1) and (2), Einstein himself argued that the only way that light deflects is by varying the speed of the parts that constitute the wave front. In other words, that the overall index of refraction varies with position or space. But when Einstein used Riemannnian Geometry to develop general relativity he had to maintain c constant and assume that space had a dynamical geometry. But the opposite is also true, that space is fixed (flat geometry) and that the index of refraction (the speed of light) varies through space near great gravitational sources. Unfortunately, only few people, know the latter view.
In the following
article I explain why the speed of light is constant when it is experimentally measured. And in this
one I make clear the issue about the ether.
They will give you a quite different view of the physics. As you can figure out from my essay I conclude that space is material and therefore one can see it as a fluid or ether. So, this may contradict what you wrote in your paragraphs. I hope this did not disappoint you.
In relation to the recycled universe, I think it is quite premature to consider that option since we have not understood pretty well the current laws of nature.
You: I believe it meets your a-f requirements.
I: Here I have a question, the "it" refers to your proposal and if so, one of that requirements (a-f) says that a theory makes testable predictions, I wonder what predictions your theory makes.
You: What I hope I can also do however is provide the key to proving your postulate, and the one matter you did not fully square up to - the constancy of 'c' irrespective of the motion of the observer, which is why AE had to 'stipulate' no 'M field' for SR.
You will find in my articles the answer to this paragraph. Also I have attached an article for a unified theory based on the idea that space is material, the theory is already developed but not widely known. Thank you again for your time.
Please feel free to make a comment.
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Eckard Blumschein replied on Jan. 26, 2011 @ 15:02 GMT
Dear Israel,
My comment on the Christov article seems to be off topic, and it is rather a curious general question. Once more I got the impression that waves phenomena in quantum mechanics are often imagined like those known for acoustic monopoles.
Since I am an electrical engineer, my picture of electromagnetic waves is different: Dipoles emit transversal (TEM) waves into a wave...
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Dear Israel,
My comment on the Christov article seems to be off topic, and it is rather a curious general question. Once more I got the impression that waves phenomena in quantum mechanics are often imagined like those known for acoustic monopoles.
Since I am an electrical engineer, my picture of electromagnetic waves is different: Dipoles emit transversal (TEM) waves into a wave guide or in free space. Longitudinal em waves are limited to cables, and they propagate with a front speed of typically only 2c/3.
From calculated em fields one could suspect that, as the opponent of emission theory are claiming, the motion of an emitting dipole does not move the field once it is emitted like a bullet. You already admitted that emission theories are possibly not yet mature enough. Maybe they were prematurely rejected?
What about the question of vacuum, Guericke's experiments were the starting points of both steam engine leading to the first industrial revolution and electricity. I am only aware of two proven obvious facts about vacuum: There are forces at distance but no immediate action at distance. Correct?
Eckard
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Dear Eckard
You: Since I am an electrical engineer, my picture of electromagnetic waves is different: Dipoles emit transversal (TEM) waves into a wave guide or in free space. Longitudinal em waves are limited to cables, and they propagate with a front speed of typically only 2c/3.
I: Yes, here you are talking about electromagnetic waves that propagate in vacuum or free space (this...
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Dear Eckard
You: Since I am an electrical engineer, my picture of electromagnetic waves is different: Dipoles emit transversal (TEM) waves into a wave guide or in free space. Longitudinal em waves are limited to cables, and they propagate with a front speed of typically only 2c/3.
I: Yes, here you are talking about electromagnetic waves that propagate in vacuum or free space (this vacuum can be seen as aether, or a material continuum, I hope you have checked my paper about the Michelson-Morley experiment and my essay) and electromagnetic waves that propagate through waveguides or wires. But if one assumes that space is material (an aether if you wish) you can see it as a fluid. On the other hand, from the theory of fluid mechanics, waves in a fluid can be compressional (longitudinal) or shear (transversal). For instance, if the fluid is a gas like air, we have longitudinal (compressional) waves for sound, that is, acoustic waves. By analogy, if we have a material space (aether), the theory of Christov predicts the existence of shear (electromagnetic) waves and compressional ("acoustic") waves. The latter waves (neither detected nor generated yet by any existing apparatus) should move faster than the speed of light but nevertheless with a finite speed. They could be a consequence of dark energy and dark matter. Since all current technology is electromagnetic-based this may explain why dark matter or dark energy cannot be directly seen.
These "acoustic" waves have right now a similar status as electromagnetic waves used to have in the age of Maxwell (1863-1888). In its original version (I mean the treatise on electricity and magnetism by Maxwell) Maxwell's electrodynamics predicted the existence of electromagnetic waves but nobody had built an apparatus to detect them or generate them until the works of Hertz and Oliver Lodge.
You: From calculated em fields one could suspect that, as the opponent of emission theory are claiming, the motion of an emitting dipole does not move the field once it is emitted like a bullet. You already admitted that emission theories are possibly not yet mature enough. Maybe they were prematurely rejected?
I: Yes, emission theories (ET) are one possibility but to be honest ET have serious problems, since they do not predict the energy-mass relation, and experiments about the constancy of the two-way speed of light appears to contradict them. I do not believe that ET are correct. So far I have not seen more arguments that could convince me of their correctness, in this sense they are still not well developed. From my view, once the electromagnetic wave is emitted, the dipole does not affect in any way the motion of the wave, the traveling disturbance is independent of the source.
What about the question of vacuum, Guericke's experiments were the starting points of both steam engine leading to the first industrial revolution and electricity. I am only aware of two proven obvious facts about vacuum: There are forces at distance but no immediate action at distance. Correct?
Yes, I see immediate action at a distance as a synonymous of infinite speed of interaction. Physicists now know that vacuum is not total emptiness, please do not take literally. Vacuum is only a word to say that between to material particles of the standard model (what I called in my essay ponderable matter) there are not any other particle of the same nature; after the rejection fo the aether, physicists were forced to fill this "space" or "vacuum" with the notion of field. Imponderable matter is for me the aether, the space, the field, the vacuum, the spirit, the metacontinuum, call it whatever you like. But the idea is here that total emptiness is incoherence and that interactions among the discrete particles is finite conveyed by some substance that pervades the whole universe.
Eckard
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Jan. 26, 2011 @ 19:28 GMT
Sorry, at the end I did not erase your name,
Israel
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Eckard Blumschein wrote on Jan. 27, 2011 @ 08:38 GMT
Dear Israel,
Since my essay is available, I hope you will understand why the question of SR vs. Ritz is of rather marginal interest to me. I consider just one argument of Ritz still valid: Future does not act back on the past.
I agree with you. The word vacuum must not be interpreted as just nothing. Guericke demonstrated the pressure of air, not an absolutely empty space....
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Dear Israel,
Since my essay is available, I hope you will understand why the question of SR vs. Ritz is of rather marginal interest to me. I consider just one argument of Ritz still valid: Future does not act back on the past.
I agree with you. The word vacuum must not be interpreted as just nothing. Guericke demonstrated the pressure of air, not an absolutely empty space. Nonetheless, I would be cautious equating field and aether. While the latter is thought to be a medium, electric or magnetic fields can be superimposed. They can even be taken away.
What about TEM and longitudinal em waves, the latter do not propagate faster.
Anyway, I expect you taking issue concerning my admittedly rather indirect support for uncommon ideas.
Regards,
Eckard
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Jan. 27, 2011 @ 20:36 GMT
Dear Eckard
I agree with your first paragraph. As to the second one concerning aether and field, I can say the following:
Maxwell had a Newtonian notion of space, he believed that space existed as a vessel or container for bodies, and independent of them. Therefore, he also believed that the aether was filling space. In this sense space was for him something with no material...
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Dear Eckard
I agree with your first paragraph. As to the second one concerning aether and field, I can say the following:
Maxwell had a Newtonian notion of space, he believed that space existed as a vessel or container for bodies, and independent of them. Therefore, he also believed that the aether was filling space. In this sense space was for him something with no material properties. This belief can be still found today. Some physicists believe that space exists (or a background) and they fill it with the Higgs field or any other, gravitational, electromagnetic, etc., certainly the context is quite different but the idea is almost the same. In contrast, I am saying that the aether, the vacuum, the space, the ubiquitous field are the same thing. I am not filling anything. The notion of field that I have in mind is just a state of that subtle matter in the sense of Maxwell and some of this kind. On the other hand, currently most physicists think of a field as a quantity that varies in space and time and carries momentum and energy but above all with independent reality of matter (of the standard model), space and time. This notion is the legacy of mainly Oliver Heaviside and Einstein.
On the other hand, I have read your essay. I can see we have some points in common, particularly, what you mentioned in a previous post about the idea of adimensional points. As I told sometimes these things become a prejudice quite hard to get rid of it. I also agree with the idea of the infinite quantities, this is a problem that dates back to Aristotle and it has not been appropriately solved. I think your work emphasizes theses issues that I am sure it could shed light on the nature of numbers, points, etc. In fact, I have been studying the problem of infinite quantities, you may be interested in seeing the surreal numbers, that apparently solve the seven indeterminacies and say something about the division by zero.
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Israel
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Eckard Blumschein replied on Jan. 28, 2011 @ 15:51 GMT
Dear Israel,
Let me briefly add something concerning my understanding of the notion field. What about your comment on my essay, I will reply there as to just once answer questions, which others might share with you.
To me a stationary electric field as well as a magnetic field can either attract or repel. I am in position of switching them on or off at will. Gravity is also stationary but always attracting at least on earth. I see abundant indications conforming my suspicion that negative energy, backward causation and the like go back to unjustified generalization of mathematical results. Electromagnetic fields are also peculiar: They propagate always forward even if they appear as standing waves for instance due to repeated reflection from end to end in a waveguide. In all, I see various possible fields that can fill what you seem to understand as the field. Correct?
Is it a too naive shot of mine in the dark to consider the electromagnetic result of all actually superimposed photon fields their own aether?
Regards,
Eckard
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Jan. 28, 2011 @ 18:51 GMT
Dear Eckard
I am sorry but I am afraid that I did not understand well what you mean in your first paragraph. Could you be please more clear and explicit.
As for the second. I recommend that you read the below attached papers. C. Christov exposes from a different perspective how particles and fields can be unified in a simple and conceptual theory (solitons). He also explains what a...
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Dear Eckard
I am sorry but I am afraid that I did not understand well what you mean in your first paragraph. Could you be please more clear and explicit.
As for the second. I recommend that you read the below attached papers. C. Christov exposes from a different perspective how particles and fields can be unified in a simple and conceptual theory (solitons). He also explains what a charge is within this context and gives a better account of what this ubiquitous field is. I believe that this will give you a wider idea of what I understand by such field.
With respect to the propagation of electromagnetic fields, very recent studies show that they do not always propagate forward. This forward propagation only occurs in the radiation zone. Budko has shown experimentally and theoretically that in the near and intermediate zones fields propagates inwards. Please take a look of his paper.
As for your last question, I am not sure if I understand it well. But if I do, I might say that the aether was the medium for the propagation of waves, just like air is the medium for the propagation of sound.So there is no problem if waves superposed this is allowed by the theory no matter if the aether exists or not. If you think of photons this is the quantum version of a wave, but the principle of superposition also applies. Please do not get confused, the aether was the medium, i.e., the substance that filled empty space... with this idea in mind, today people think similarly, space is empty and they fill space with fields (electromagnetic, gravitational)... this is why I say that the aether is the field, but it is only one that causes the electromagnetic and gravitational effects.
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Israel
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Eckard Blumschein replied on Jan. 30, 2011 @ 11:32 GMT
Dear Israel,
With pleasure I will try and explain hopefully more understandably my first paragraph. I just am not yet sure what paragraph you are referring to. Do you mean my essay. There the first paragraph is called 1 Realism of analog vs. merely continuous vs. digital modes. If you meant something else, tell me please the first three words.
I looked into Budko's paper and was disappointed. He wrote: "... the main body of the waveform appears to go inwards or back in time". Of course this is not new at all, and I consider it rather misleading to claim: "Budko has shown experimentally and theoretically that in the near and intermediate zones fields propagates inwards." I am fed up with Nimtz.
Regards,
Eckard
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Eckard Blumschein replied on Jan. 31, 2011 @ 13:58 GMT
Dear Israel,
The paper by Christov is almost unreadable to me because I am unable to flip it into the usual position.
May I ask you once again for telling me what paragraph you were referring to?
Eckard
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Jan. 31, 2011 @ 18:21 GMT
Dear Eckard
Sorry for my late reply. I was referring to a previous comment of one of your posts above, namely:
Let me briefly add something concerning my understanding of the notion field. What about your comment on my essay, I will reply there as to just once answer questions, which others might share with you.
It is not clear to me what you are referring to.
With respect to Budko, I probably exaggerated my claim, So, I retract from it.
As for the work of Christov, his approach is certainly not easy to grasp at first sight because he is putting forward a new radical paradigm in which the duality of waves and particles no longer exists. Particles are seen as waves (solitons). And most of the traditional notions in physics are reconceptualized. This is the novelty of this theory.
Best Regards
Israel
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Rodney Bartlett wrote on Jan. 27, 2011 @ 18:31 GMT
Dear Dr. Perez,
Thanks again for visiting my essay "Steps Resulting From Digital Reality" (subtitled "Science Out Of The Straitjacket: Rethinking General
Relativity, E=mc2 … and String Theory"). Just as Oskar Klein prepared a quantum version of Theodor Kaluza's 5-dimensional spacetime in 1926 and Leonard Susskind wrote a string-theory version of Gerard 't Hooft's holographic...
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Dear Dr. Perez,
Thanks again for visiting my essay "Steps Resulting From Digital Reality" (subtitled "Science Out Of The Straitjacket: Rethinking General
Relativity, E=mc2 … and String Theory"). Just as Oskar Klein prepared a quantum version of Theodor Kaluza's 5-dimensional spacetime in 1926 and Leonard Susskind wrote a string-theory version of Gerard 't Hooft's holographic principle in 1995, I had a dream that I was writing a quantum or string-theory version of your essay in 2011. Well, that may not be the case, but it prompted me to get out of bed and type a few of the points on which our essays agree and disagree.
First, we both believe "... some of the most fundamental problems in modern physics might turn out to be fictitious." I'd say dark energy and the multiverse are the most prominent examples. Maybe you'd like to hear my thoughts on these. Before I go any further, I should acknowledge your materialistic view of the universe and warn you that the next paragraph disagrees with this view -
DARK ENERGY - Page 180 of “The Grand Design” says “Because gravity is attractive, gravitational energy is negative.” Since there was no gravitation in our universe prior to the Big Bang (we didn’t even have a universe), this sentence can be combined with the “backward causality” (effects influencing causes) promoted by Yakir Aharonov, John Cramer and others to explain that gravity’s negative energy gives us no reason to think that bodies could not appear anywhere and everywhere – as Professors Hawking and Mlodinow put it “Bodies such as stars or black holes* cannot just appear out of nothing. But a whole universe can.” Maybe it’s only playing with words, but I’d regard gravity as repulsive instead of attractive (its energy would then be positive like matter’s and the universe could be more than a vast collection of the countless photons, electrons and other quantum particles within it; it could, as #8 (in my essay) proposes, be a unified whole that has particles and waves built into its union of digital 1’s and 0’s (or its union of qubits – quantum binary digits). And the article “Gravitation” by Robert F. Paton in World Book Encyclopedia 1967 agrees that gravity is repulsive – “Einstein says that bodies do not attract each other at a distance. Objects that fall to the earth, for example, are not ‘pulled’ by the earth. The curvature of space time around the earth forces the objects to take the direction on toward the earth. The objects are pushed toward the earth by the gravitational field rather than pulled by the earth.” Repelling gravity would cause the universe to expand – as astronomer Edwin Hubble (1889-1953) confirmed in 1929 – and adding repelling gravity by continual "creation" (actually, recycling) of matter via the small amount from a preceding universe which is used to initiate expansion of its successor (or by dreaming and our brains using negative energy and antiparticles in them to do work effortlessly and to accomplish feats that would be thought of as miracles while we’re awake) would cause it to expand at an accelerated rate – this acceleration was discovered in 1998 by observations carried out by the High-z Supernova Search Team and the Supernova Cosmology Project, has been confirmed several times and is claimed to be caused by mysterious “dark energy”.
Regarding "our brains using negative energy and antiparticles", I'm reminded of Professor Roger Penrose's ideas on microtubules and the quantum functioning of the brain. However, my own ideas are inspired by the previous page of "The Grand Design". On p. 179 of “The Grand Design” by Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow (Bantam Press, 2010) it’s stated
“One requirement any law of nature must satisfy is that it dictates that the energy of an isolated body surrounded by empty space is positive …”
and “… if the energy of an isolated body were negative … there would be no reason that bodies could not appear anywhere and everywhere.”
The only problem with those sentences, in an “everything is everywhere and everywhen” universe, is the word isolated. There can be no such thing as isolated in our cosmic-quantum unification. Does this mean you and I (plus all things in time and space) are a union of both positive and negative energy, able to display both separateness/solidity (isolation) as well as the potential to appear anywhere and everywhere? Page 179 also says “(the positive energy of a body) means that one has to do work to assemble the body.” Does this mean the positive component of the Cosmic-Quantum Union refers to an actual computer performing work by sending out the binary digits of 1 and 0 (in hyperspace) while its negative component refers to the universe being like a dream, and to binary digits that are transmitted by “telekinetic independence from technology” (see the end of #9 in my essay). In 1928 English physicist Paul Dirac (1902-84) proposed that all negative energy states are already occupied by (then) hypothetical antiparticles (particles of antimatter) – “Workings of the Universe”, a book in the series “Voyage Through The Universe”, by Time-Life Books 1992. This has ramifications for the subatomic particles called mesons which bind protons and neutrons together to form the atomic nucleus, in much the same way that gluons are said to bind together quarks which are said to be the constituents of protons and neutrons. Mesons are always composed of a quark-antiquark pair i.e. of a positive energy-negative energy pair. So when we’re dreaming and our brains are using negative energy, they’re not merely using a much lower degree of positive energy to do work but the antiparticles in them are receiving greater expression, allowing us to do work literally effortlessly and to accomplish feats, like appearing "anywhere and everywhere", that would be thought of as miracles while we’re awake.
Writing these views is not intended to merely transfer my essay to this page, because THEY ARE NOT PART OF MY ESSAY. I had intended to include them but as you point out "Unfortunately, the size of the essay is limited". For example, I do agree with you entirely that the universe is infinite and eternal. However, I don't need to go into long explanations here since my reasons for believing this can be found within my essay.
Also, you tell me that "Time travel is not possible ..." My essay goes into a lot of detail explaining how to travel into both the future and the past. Neither future nor past can be altered (a blow to our belief that we have the free will to shape the future) and my explanation of travel to the past requires re-interpretation of the concepts of "multiverse" and "parallel universes". It also requires the ability to travel billions of light years INSTANTLY. This sounds like pure fantasy, but I outline an approach based on electrical engineering, General Relativity, and Miguel Alcubierre's 1994 proposal of "warp drive" that makes it logically possible (personally, I think it's not only inevitable but our descendents are doing it right now ... that's how a person thinks when he or she is totally believes non-materialism and cosmic-quantum unification are "done deals".
Good luck with your essay,
Rodney
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Jan. 27, 2011 @ 21:22 GMT
Dear Rodney
Thank you for your comments. I would like to say something about them.
[In relation to Dark Energy] Based on the Newtonian theory of gravitation, the gravitational force is considered to be attractive. Based on General relativity there is no gravitational force but a curvature of space-time. And if one bases one's arguments on other theories, one will probably conclude...
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Dear Rodney
Thank you for your comments. I would like to say something about them.
[In relation to Dark Energy] Based on the Newtonian theory of gravitation, the gravitational force is considered to be attractive. Based on General relativity there is no gravitational force but a curvature of space-time. And if one bases one's arguments on other theories, one will probably conclude that the gravitational force is in reality neither a force nor a deformation of space-time but a flow around the earth (see the World of Descartes), or any other thing. Thus, if Dark energy or the gravitational force are attractive or repulsive, that would depend on the theory one uses. I assume you are basing your arguments on General relativity and quantum mechanics.
As to time travel, first of all, I would like to know the onthological notion of time you have. Once one has a notion of time one can discuss if time travel is possible or not. I have exposed my notion in my essay and I have given some reasons to you why time travel is not possible. But I have not seen your notion with your own words. You quoted what others say. Please tell me in some sentences what you understand by time.
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Israel
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Steve Dufourny wrote on Jan. 28, 2011 @ 16:03 GMT
Hi to both of you,
Dear Rodney,
Are you serious??? The relativity never says that it's possible to travel in time.The concept of space time is a concept of evolution, relativistic.
The only thing you can, is the check of the internal duration of your motion system,we can thus go in theory in the future but we can't return at home.Thus why??? Furthermore the technology is so...
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Hi to both of you,
Dear Rodney,
Are you serious??? The relativity never says that it's possible to travel in time.The concept of space time is a concept of evolution, relativistic.
The only thing you can, is the check of the internal duration of your motion system,we can thus go in theory in the future but we can't return at home.Thus why??? Furthermore the technology is so not possible and useless.
The past can be seen only by interpretations of our datas and analyzes,we see our past in the stars, there also it's just a problem of human evolution, we are indeed young at the universal scale.
I understand your confusions just in seeing your methods.You use too much theories without real phsyical senses.The multiverses, the strings,the reversibilities of time.....all that is false and implies, thus in your line of reasoning, many confusions as this time travel.The rationality is the sister of our foundamentals. Our constants are our constants!!!
Best Regards and good luck for the contest.
Steve
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Jan. 28, 2011 @ 18:58 GMT
Hi Steve
I think that your previous post was aimed to Rodney, am I right?
best regards
Israel
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Steve Dufourny replied on Jan. 29, 2011 @ 11:46 GMT
Hi Israel,
Indeed, sorry.
Good luck for this contest, a beautiful essay,
Best Regards
Steve
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Rodney Bartlett wrote on Jan. 29, 2011 @ 12:11 GMT
Dear Israel and Steve,
First, what I understand by time. Space and time only exist in our experience. They are emergent properties, like wetness and mind. We experience wetness because it emerges from the building blocks of the hydrogen and oxygen atoms which make up water. We experience mind because it emerges from the building blocks of neurons composing the brain. And we experience...
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Dear Israel and Steve,
First, what I understand by time. Space and time only exist in our experience. They are emergent properties, like wetness and mind. We experience wetness because it emerges from the building blocks of the hydrogen and oxygen atoms which make up water. We experience mind because it emerges from the building blocks of neurons composing the brain. And we experience space-time since it emerges from the building blocks making up the universe. These units are a combination of electromagnetic pulses (forming a cosmic computer which includes randomness and thus the potential to escape rigid preprogramming, and have a small degree of free will) as well as a cosmic hologram (this combination unifies general relativity with quantum physics). Every physical and nonphysical part of the universal hologram would be a receptor for the downloading of data from the cosmic computer which not only exists in the hyperspace of the large-scale universe but also in the hyperspace of each subatomic particle. (In other words, the holographic universe or spacetime we know is a screen for invisibly displaying data from the 5th-dimensional computer).
Steve, it might be helpful to visualise time as a CD or video tape. The entire disc or tape obviously exists all the time. But our physical senses can only perceive a tiny part of the sound and the sights. I believe space and time are infinite, so it might be more accurate to visualise time as that huge number - in this case, of CDs or tapes - which some versions of string theory propose (at a minimum, 10 exponent 500). My essay tells you how to travel to the future, how to return home, and how to travel into our past. I believe relativity suggests the possibility of time travel - but even if it doesn't, we can go far beyond it (and far beyond today's very limited technology).
Now back to your reasons why time travel is not possible, Israel.
First, "one should have to explain the grandfather paradox."
The solution to the grandfather paradox is - instantly directing matter, energy and forces anywhere in the universe at any point in the past, present or future; the hyperspatial computer would be a spaceless and timeless basic reality from which space-time would emerge (since the universe is a unification possessing zero separation; every bit of the matter, energy and force directed by the hyperspace computer would feed back into the computer and be simultaneously directing IT, ensuring that history and the future could never be changed and the "grandfather paradox" is no problem after all).
"If time were a line we would have observed travelers from the future."
I can't say I know the answer to this one, but I can think of 3 possibilities - 1) maybe they have used synthetic biology to develop ghostly, non-physical bodies.
2) it's possible that every person we see is ultimately from the future, though they'd be totally unaware of it. They'd be unconscious of their true place in this eternal universe since their job is to contribute, in whatever way they can, to development of the fantastic future awaiting everyone. They'd be less inclined to build the future if they had awareness of it already existing.
3) maybe they are dark tourists who resemble dark matter by remaining invisible yet are capable of exerting gravitational, or other, influence. My essay suggests the universe is a Mobius loop and is contained in, or unified with, each of its particles (relying on physical senses or 21st-century scientific instruments would make this statement ridiculous). Then each fermion and boson would also be composed of the 3 spatial dimensions, the 4th dimension of time, and the 5th dimension of hyperspace. Detectors like the Large Hadron Collider would be unable to "see" the time and hyperspace components of particles, erroneously assuming particles are what physics calls strings. But just as dark matter could be ordinary matter whose 3 space dimensions are invisible to us, dark tourists from the future might have discovered a way for only their 4th and 5th dimensions to enter the world we perceive (similar to a 3D circle appearing to be a dot when it first enters the 2D world of Flatland - the examination of dimensions in the 1884 book by Edwin Abbott).
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Rodney Bartlett wrote on Jan. 30, 2011 @ 08:29 GMT
Hi again,
I had a lot of trouble writing down an answer to what I understand by time. I think I might be able to do better than I did yesterday. So here's the last third of something I spent today writing.
My essay suggests the universe is a Mobius loop and is contained in, or unified with, each of its particles (relying on physical senses or 21st-century scientific instruments would...
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Hi again,
I had a lot of trouble writing down an answer to what I understand by time. I think I might be able to do better than I did yesterday. So here's the last third of something I spent today writing.
My essay suggests the universe is a Mobius loop and is contained in, or unified with, each of its particles (relying on physical senses or 21st-century scientific instruments would make this statement ridiculous). Then each fermion and boson would also be composed of the 3 spatial dimensions, the 4th dimension of time, and the 5th dimension of hyperspace. Detectors like the Large Hadron Collider would be unable to "see" the time and hyperspace components of particles but could only see the small (maybe 5%) 3 spatial dimensions (the time and hyperspace components would be what we call dark matter), erroneously assuming particles are those tiny fractions of a Mobius loop that physics calls strings. We can visualise the Mobius loop as composed of a hyperspace computer which generates information on how things change from one undetectably tiny fraction of a second to the next (we call this time, and it's comparable to the frames in a movie) and transmits the data (transmits dark energy?) to the insignificant portion of length, width and depth that makes up subatomic particles ... and the universe.
Preceding the Big Bang (which created this local section of the infinite, eternal universe ... or if you prefer, this subuniverse of the megauniverse) there would have been no space, matter or time in this subuniverse and all would have been hyperspace. No transmissions of dark energy (creating time and space/matter) would have occurred - therefore the dark-energy content of the universe would have been zero, increasing to the present 72% as more and more matter was created. How is matter created? Perhaps as cosmologist Alan Guth once suggested -
"You might even be able to start a new universe using energy equivalent to just a few pounds of matter. Provided you could find some way to compress it to a density of about 10^75 (10 exponent 75) grams per cubic centimeter, and provided you could trigger the thing ..."
At the time the Cosmic Microwave Background was emitted (less than a million years after the big bang), results from the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe say the dark-energy content of the universe was negligible. Space/matter has been increasing since the big bang so transmissions from hyperspace (dark energy) which create them are increasing while the volume of the Mobius loop occupied by time/hyperspace (dark matter) has been shrinking as a result - according to the WMAP satellite, from 63% when the CMB was emitted to 23% today.
Regarding travel beyond our start and into the past ... it can’t be denied that these paragraphs imply the possibility of humans from the distant future time-travelling to the distant past and using electronics to create this particular subuniverse's computer-generated Big Bang. An accomplishment such as this would be the supreme example of “backward causality” (effects influencing causes) promoted by Yakir Aharonov, John Cramer and others. However, realising that we live in a cosmic-quantum unification with zero-separation and recalling Isaac Newton’s inverse-square law and what it says about the force between two particles being infinite (does infinite mean 10 ^ 500? - see previous post) if the distance of separation goes to zero means there's still room for God (as Creator) because God would be a pantheistic union of the megauniverse's material and mental parts, forming a union with humans in a cosmic unification.
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Feb. 1, 2011 @ 06:48 GMT
Dear Rodney
I am sorry but your notion of time is obscure to me.
kind regards
Israel
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Steve Dufourny replied on Feb. 4, 2011 @ 18:48 GMT
Hi Rodney and Israel,
Me also I think that time travel is so "pseudo sciences".Dear Rodney, you imagine a transfert of mass between two points of space time,it's purely not possible considering the entropy and the evolution.
You know the strings are falses and the hyperdimensions also.The real secret is far of us but we appraoch all days.In fact it's the energy the real secret and the motion,it's thus more rational to focus on the check of space between two points, here spheres for example as our planets.The contraction of this space more the rotations more a good speed and we can discover our Universe in evolution, but the time is just a constant of this evolution, harmonious and precise.PURELLY IRREVERSIBLE .
Now dear Rodney if you can convince us, let's go but I must admit you that it will be difficult.The rationalism is essential for all good extrapolations.
Best Regads
Steve
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basudeba wrote on Jan. 31, 2011 @ 06:18 GMT
Dear Sir,
We congratulate you for the brilliant essay. We fully agree that “Coherence in the physical interpretation” is very important “when we try to decode the mathematical language.”
You ask “What experimental evidences support the existence of ten dimensions?” “What powerful epistemological reasons do we have to believe in extra dimensions?” We hold that incorporation of...
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Dear Sir,
We congratulate you for the brilliant essay. We fully agree that “Coherence in the physical interpretation” is very important “when we try to decode the mathematical language.”
You ask “What experimental evidences support the existence of ten dimensions?” “What powerful epistemological reasons do we have to believe in extra dimensions?” We hold that incorporation of dimensions is not just a mere mathematical artifice. But the term dimension has been misused and interpreted wrongly that leads to the present problem. The term dimension is applied to solids that have fixed spread in a given direction based on their internal arrangement independent of external factors. For relating it to the external fixed coordinates, we use axes that are perpendicular to each other and term these as x-y-z coordinates (length-breadth-height). These are not absolute terms, but are related to the order of placement of the object in the coordinate system of the field in which the object is placed. Thus, they remain invariant under mutual transformation. If we rotate the object so that x-axis changes to y-axis or z-axis, there is no effect on the object. Based on the positive and negative directions from the origin, these describe six unique positions (x,0,0), (-x,0,0), (0,y,0), (0,-y,0), (0,0,z), (0,0,-z), that remain invariant under mutual transformation. Besides these, there are four more unique positions, namely (x,y), (-x,y), (-x,-y) and (x,-y) that also remain invariant under mutual transformation. These are the ten dimensions and not the so-called mathematical structures. These are described in detail in our book “Vaidic Theory of Numbers”.
You discuss the statement that “thought is the result of the evolution of the universe and under this premise physical theories are created”. We hold that mind functions mechanically and thought is the inertia of mind. Just like inertia takes over after an action and at the similar velocity in a field that gets modified after interaction with other forces, thought starts after an impulse acts on our organs of sensory perception and drawing from our memory field similar previous experiences moves in the same subject that get modified after interaction with other impulses. You come to a conclusion that “there are limits to knowledge”, with which we fully agree. Yet, we hold that theory of everything is possible. In fact, we have such a theory.
We agree that “a field is some kind of M in certain state”. We also agree that one of the properties of M is mass. But we do not agree that “mass is a source of gravitation and, at the same time, is some kind of energy”. We hold the opposite view that gravitation is a composite force that has two functions: structure formation and displacement. We derive electromagnetic field from gravitational force at the micro level and derive gravitational field from the electromagnetic force at the macro level.
We do not agree that space and time are physical entities. We hold that these are mental constructs based on alternative symbolism. Both are related to sequence. Space describes the interval between (or sequence of arrangement of) objects. Time does so for events, i.e., changes in the states of objects. Since intervals are not physical entities by themselves and are not describable by themselves, they are described using the objects as their boundary conditions.
We agree that “that something cannot be created out of nothingness”. We also agree that “the universe is, exists, has always been and will exist indefinitely and infinitely”, but we disagree that “the universe will never become into nothingness”. The term “nothingness” relates to not only its existence, but also its knowability and describability. While the first factor is eternal, the last two are not. To that extent, the universe may become “temporally nothing”. We advise you to go through our essay on the subject.
We agree that the whole universe made up of one single entity and there are no arguments to propose dark matter or dark energy, as they are defined at present. Yet, they exist in some other form. We have a detailed model on the creation of the universe and evolution of various forces and fields. We will soon publish those.
basudeba
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Jan. 31, 2011 @ 21:39 GMT
Dear Basubeda
Thank you very much for your comments, they are very valuable to me. I would like discuss some points and ask a couple of questions.
You: ...These are the ten dimensions and not the so-called mathematical structures. These are described in detail in our book "Vaidic Theory of Numbers".
I agree with you, they are only axes (i.e. mathematical constructs) that help...
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Dear Basubeda
Thank you very much for your comments, they are very valuable to me. I would like discuss some points and ask a couple of questions.
You: ...These are the ten dimensions and not the so-called mathematical structures. These are described in detail in our book "Vaidic Theory of Numbers".
I agree with you, they are only axes (i.e. mathematical constructs) that help us with the calculations. So, from the mathematical perspective one can argued that in reality there are only 3 dimensions, or 11 dimensions, or infinitely many dimensions. But the important thing here to be emphasized, as you seem to imply, is what we understand by dimension. Certainly, I would like be glad if I have access to your book and see the meaning of dimension.
You: You discuss the statement that "thought is the result of the evolution of the universe and under this premise physical theories are created". We hold that mind functions mechanically and thought is the inertia of mind. Just like inertia takes over after an action and at the similar velocity in a field that gets modified after interaction with other forces, thought starts after an impulse acts on our organs of sensory perception and drawing from our memory field similar previous experiences moves in the same subject that get modified after interaction with other impulses. You come to a conclusion that "there are limits to knowledge", with which we fully agree. Yet, we hold that theory of everything is possible. In fact, we have such a theory.
I: Well, in this paragraph I think you may have misunderstood the meaning of "thought" I wanted to express. What I mean by "thought is the result of the evolution of the universe" is that humans (and therefore, intelligence, mind, thought, imagination, etc.) are the consequences of the evolution of the universe.
In the last sentences you argue that you have a TOE. I am really interested about this, have you published it? can I have the reference? I would appreciate it.
You: But we do not agree that "mass is a source of gravitation and, at the same time, is some kind of energy". We hold the opposite view that gravitation is a composite force that has two functions: structure formation and displacement. We derive electromagnetic field from gravitational force at the micro level and derive gravitational field from the electromagnetic force at the macro level.
I am sorry but I do not understand your arguments. Could you please give a wider explanation. What do you mean by structure formation and displacement? displacement of what? I think that if there were no matter, there would be no mass and therefore no gravitation. If you agree that the field is some kind of matter in certain state then gravitation, seen as an attractive force in the Newtonian sense, finds its source in matter.
You: We do not agree that space and time are physical entities. We hold that these are mental constructs based on alternative symbolism. Both are related to sequence. Space describes the interval between (or sequence of arrangement of) objects. Time does so for events, i.e., changes in the states of objects. Since intervals are not physical entities by themselves and are not describable by themselves, they are described using the objects as their boundary conditions.
I: When you talk about space and time as mental constructs you are talking about the relationalist notion of space and time and therefore its mathematical representation. In this sense I agree with you that space and time are not physical entities. But what I point out in my essay is that the thing that makes up everything is matter, so the thing that mediates between to ponderable objects is what one mathematically calls a distance, length or space interval. But physically the thing in itself that mediates those two objects is also material, what I call in my essay imponderable matter. I hope you get my view. In this sense I may be following the substantialist notion of space. A similar line of reasoning apply for the notion of time. If you only focus your attention in the relation among events you are talking about the relationalist notion of time. When I said that matter in motion (or more generally in change) gives us the notion of time, I may be considering the substantialist notion of time.
You: but we disagree that "the universe will never become into nothingness". The term "nothingness" relates to not only its existence, but also its knowability and describability. While the first factor is eternal, the last two are not. To that extent, the universe may become "temporally nothing". We advise you to go through our essay on the subject.
I have read your interesting essay but I do not catch the connection with "temporally nothing". Could please clarify this point. It seems to me paradoxical that you agree that the universe has always existed and it will be so forever, but you say that the universe in some point in the future will not exist. If someone says "the universe will become into nothingness" what I understand by this is: "the universe will cease to exist". If we do not agree that these sentences are equivalent, we have semantical problems.
You: We have a detailed model on the creation of the universe and evolution of various forces and fields. We will soon publish those.
Please let me know whenever your results are ready.
Good luck in the contest
With kind Regards
Israel
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basudeba replied on Feb. 1, 2011 @ 06:12 GMT
Dear Sir,
We are thankful to you for your response. If you can mail your postal address to mbasudeba@gmail.com, a copy of the book will reach you. In our previous post, the expressions “(x,y), (-x,y), (-x, -y) and (x, -y)” should be read as “(x=y), (-x=y), (-x,= -y) and (x,= -y)”. Time is not a dimension in the sense that space has three dimensions, because, as we have pointed out in our...
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Dear Sir,
We are thankful to you for your response. If you can mail your postal address to mbasudeba@gmail.com, a copy of the book will reach you. In our previous post, the expressions “(x,y), (-x,y), (-x, -y) and (x, -y)” should be read as “(x=y), (-x=y), (-x,= -y) and (x,= -y)”. Time is not a dimension in the sense that space has three dimensions, because, as we have pointed out in our essay, space has negative direction, but time has not. Hence there cannot be 11 dimensions.
We agree that “humans (and therefore, intelligence, mind, thought, imagination, etc.) are the consequences of the evolution of the universe”. Still we stand by what we wrote. Though observer has a central role in Quantum theories, its true nature and mechanism has eluded the scientists. We define these and from this derive the other evolutionary sequences, as measurement is the perceived result of comparison between similars at any designated instant. Thus, without first defining perception and its mechanism, we cannot discuss evolution in any meaningful manner. In our TOE, we start with the pre-big-bang state (avoiding or rather explaining singularity) and using only inertia (we consider elasticity as a form of inertia) and simple laws of motion, explain first the evolution of forces and then the structures. The same physical laws give different results for macro and micro systems as a consequence of the format of evolution. We do not use renormalization, which hold as mathematically void. We do not use any complex number, as they are unphysical. In short we have a completely alternative physical theory. Though we have written about it from time to time, the complete theory will be published soon. The following are some of the testable predictions of our book.
1. The accepted value of the electric charge of quarks contains an error element of 3%. In stead of +⅔ and -⅓, it should be +7/11 and -4/11. Thus, taking the measured charge of electrons as the unit, the value of the electric charge of protons is +10/11 and that of neutrons -1/11. The residual negative charge is not apparent as negative charge always confines positive charge and flows towards the concentration of positive charge - nucleus. Hence it is not felt outside. It is not revealed in measurement due to the nature of calibration of the measuring instruments. This excess negative charge confines the positive charge (nearly 2000 times in magnitude) which is revealed in atomic explosions. Charge neutral only means the number of protons and electrons are equal.
2. The value of the gravitational constant G is not the same for all systems. Just like the value for acceleration due to gravity g varies from position to position, the value of G also varies between systems. Gravity is not a single force, but a composite force of seven that act together separately on micro and the macro systems. Only this can explain the Pioneer Anomaly, which even MOND has failed to explain. Similarly, it can explain the sudden change of direction of the Voyager space crafts after the orbit of Saturn and the Fly-by anomalies.
3. The value of the fine-structure constant α that determines the electromagnetic field strength as calculated by us theoretically from our atomic orbital theory is 7/960 (1/137) when correlated to the strong interaction (so-called zero energy level) and 7/900 (1/128) when correlated to the weak interaction (80 GeV level). There are 5 more values that determine the structure of the orbitals in the atomic spectra. Hence the physically available values of the s orbitals (principal quantum number) are restricted to n = 7, though theoretically, it can have any positive integer value.
4. There is nothing like Lorentz variant inertial mass. It has never been proved.
5. We do not subscribe to the modern view of fields. We believe in only two types of fields hinted in our essay.
All words used by us are precise and have universal meaning. By structure formation and displacement we mean formation of all structures from quarks to the universe as a whole. By displacement we mean all displacements from the decay of protons and neutrons to the apparently receding galaxies. We hold that field is the only absolute state. Matter is nothing but confined field. The confinement changes density, the effect of which on the external field is expressed as mass. This generates the charge, which in turn generates different effects of the external field. When another mass is subjected to such field, it experiences the effects, which are called the various fundamental forces of Nature.
What we call as attractive force is a wrong description of facts, because it implies “pull”, which is physically impossible. We can only push and wrongly describe negative push as pull. Thus, gravity is not an attractive force, but only a stabilizing force that stabilizes bodies in their respective orbits, be it atomic orbits or planetary orbits or galactic orbits. The distance between the two stable bodies is determined not only by their respective masses, but also by the intensity of the field containing both, which appears as the gravitational constant. But this constant is not universal, as was discovered by Dirac way back in 1937. For stabilizing, the force must be a composite one. Thus, gravitational force is a composite force. It stabilizes not only the orbit, but also shapes the stable structures by stabilizing its various sub-systems. Thus, we said that gravity is responsible for structure formation.
Since gravity is a composite force that is experienced through the external field and since the external field is subject to fluctuation due to the interaction with different bodies, the equilibrium is continuously disturbed. This disturbance leads to currents in the field, which flows in different directions. Any particle entering that field will experience that current and will drift in that direction. In the Solar system, these currents are called Inter-Planetary Super Highways and are often used by space scientists for propelling space crafts. This shows that gravity also displaces.
There is no contradiction between our views regarding space and time. What we wrote was about digital space. What you are talking about is analog space. Space is nothing but the analog field that contains all objects that are locally confined fields. The same goes for time also. Since analog space and time cannot be measured, we wrote about digitized space and time.
What we meant by “temporally nothing” is that beyond singularity, there is no one to describe the state. Without perception, everything is non-existent. Since digitized time ceases, we used the words “temporally nothing”. It only implies that the state is undescribable. But it is different from absolute nothingness. To understand the issue you must look at one off-shoot of quantum gravity, which predicts “big bounce”. It has been interpreted to imply colliding galaxies. But we interpret it differently. According to our theory, the universe after reaching singularity bounces back by a mechanism described in our book. In the interregnum, there is no way to describe that state. This state is thus called “temporally nothing”.
We thank you again for your well wishes for us in the contest. We are not keen on the result. All we want is that the scientific community should take their work seriously and abandon the cults of reductionism, superstition and incomprehensibity. The Scientists who evolved the present theories were eminent persons, but they were not blessed with the modern technological innovations. Thus, what they achieved by their limited data is commendable. But when we find that in extreme cases these theories do not work, we have to come out of the old confinement and build a new structure. No amount of pack work will help as the differences are too glaring. Thus, the cosmological constant has made a come back along with many previously discarded theories. We were surprised to find that most students know about MOND, but even many teachers do not know about Pioneer Anomaly that led to it. Similarly, as we have pointed out in our essay, there is no unanimity among scientists as to what constitutes reality. Since their views are different, no one view can be taken as the correct view till we reconcile the differences. Thus, we should move towards a grand unified theory only after we reconcile our inherent contradictions. As long as this goal is achieved, we will be satisfied. That will be our greatest prize as it will save a huge amount of public money that is wasted in the name of scientific research.
With kind Regards,
basudeba
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Feb. 1, 2011 @ 20:16 GMT
Dear Basubeda
You: By displacement we mean all displacements from the decay of protons and neutrons to the apparently receding galaxies. We hold that field is the only absolute state. Matter is nothing but confined field. The confinement changes density, the effect of which on the external field is expressed as mass. This generates the charge, which in turn generates different effects of...
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Dear Basubeda
You: By displacement we mean all displacements from the decay of protons and neutrons to the apparently receding galaxies. We hold that field is the only absolute state. Matter is nothing but confined field. The confinement changes density, the effect of which on the external field is expressed as mass. This generates the charge, which in turn generates different effects of the external field. When another mass is subjected to such field, it experiences the effects, which are called the various fundamental forces of Nature.
I agree with this. But from the perspective of my essay your field is just a state of matter. So this suggests that we are talking about the same idea probably with distinct connotations. This is why it is important to find our points of agreement and disagreement, and express our ideas as clear and coherent as possible.
Now I also understand what you mean by structure formation and displacement. I would call the latter motion or change.
You also enumerate some of the predictions that your proposal makes to explain already known phenomena. But I wonder what new predictions or insights your theory suggest.
You: What we call as attractive force is a wrong description of facts, because it implies “pull”, which is physically impossible. We can only push and wrongly describe negative push as pull. Thus, gravity is not an attractive force, but only a stabilizing force that stabilizes bodies in their respective orbits, be it atomic orbits or planetary orbits or galactic orbits....Thus we said that gravity is responsible for structure formation.
From the perspective of ordinary mechanics a push can be seen, in essence, as a pressure exerted on a body and pull as a strain. This is so, because, at least, all macroscopic objects have a resilient capacity. Now, it is said that if two objects tend towards their center of mass they attract each other. By contrast if they recede or apart from each other, it is said that they repel (negative attraction). But gravity as a force is only felt when we are supported by something, in other words, the supporting object (say the earth) is pushing us upwards, but we are also pushing the earth downwards. This being said I agree with you that gravity is a pushing force and thus some sort of stabilizing force. But when an object is in a free fall an observer on earth will see that the object and the earth are approaching relative to one another, therefore he concludes that there is a force among this two things that is attractive, despite that the object that is falling feels no force at all until it reaches the earth. So I think one must be careful with non-technical language such as push or pull.
You: There is no contradiction between our views regarding space and time. What we wrote was about digital space. What you are talking about is analog space. Space is nothing but the analog field that contains all objects that are locally confined fields. The same goes for time also. Since analog space and time cannot be measured, we wrote about digitized space and time.
I agree with this.
You: What we meant by "temporally nothing" is that beyond singularity, there is no one to describe the state.... Since digitized time ceases, we used the words “temporally nothing”.
I think I understand "temporally nothing". What I can understand is that the digitalized time (which is the one that is measured) cannot be described or it has no meaning at the singularity. But what about analog time? Can we say something about it at that point? When you say:"Without perception, everything is non-existent" If I understood this well, perhaps you are saying something like this: "if there are no humans there is no physical reality". Since humans perceive they are the only ones that give sense to existence. And you may be mixing my points (1) and (2) of my essay in item 16.
You: ...Similarly, as we have pointed out in our essay, there is no unanimity among scientists as to what constitutes reality. Since their views are different, no one view can be taken as the correct view till we reconcile the differences. Thus, we should move towards a grand unified theory only after we reconcile our inherent contradictions. As long as this goal is achieved, we will be satisfied. That will be our greatest prize as it will save a huge amount of public money that is wasted in the name of scientific research.
I agree with you. Since our views are different, how can we agree or reconciliate our differences?
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Israel
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basudeba replied on Feb. 2, 2011 @ 05:12 GMT
Dear Sir,
We thank you for your response.
We agree that “field is just a state of matter”. But this definition is incomplete. We have spoken about two types of fields. This description of matter applies to one of the two, which is a composite field. The other field we refer to is a pure field, from which we derive all fundamental forces of Nature to confine a locality to create...
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Dear Sir,
We thank you for your response.
We agree that “field is just a state of matter”. But this definition is incomplete. We have spoken about two types of fields. This description of matter applies to one of the two, which is a composite field. The other field we refer to is a pure field, from which we derive all fundamental forces of Nature to confine a locality to create “matter” that forms the other field and part of which appear as mass. The pure field only can account for the observer and observation. We also agree that displacement is motion or change. Thus, we both are in agreement on this issue.
The predictions of our theory points out a different value for the electric charge of quarks, and as a consequence, that of protons, neutrons that make atoms not charge neutral, but negatively charged particles. Since negative charge flows from orbits towards the nucleus, it is not experience by us from outside the orbit, but this proves, among other things, that mass is confined field. The other prediction, which we did not publicize relates to the atomic structure, from which we derived these values. It is much more elaborate than what is known to general public. From this we also derived the value of the fine structure constant theoretically, which almost matches the measured values. The minor differences can be attributed to the mechanism of measurement. The other prediction relates to gravity. We have theoretically derived the values of pi, phi, etc. and can explain the HR-Diagram from this atomic structure. Our theory is distinctly different from other theories.
Regarding stress and strain we must point out that these are effects on the body and not the mechanism that creates these effects. You agree that gravity is related to mass that constitute the body that experiences stress or strain. Since we hold that gravity is a composite force that stabilizes, it implies that once a force is applied in a certain direction, it disturbs the medium. The elasticity of the medium (which we call the inertia of restoration, as it is generated after the application of a force and its magnitude is equal to the force – till the applied force overcomes it - but in the opposite direction), generates the opposite force. The effect of these forces appears as stress and strain. But this does not validate “attraction” or “pull”. It is always a push. However, there may be different situations where they appear otherwise as described below.
Once a force is applied, the body is displaced. If the force is not moving with the body with an ever increasing velocity (positive acceleration), then the force ceases to operate on the body. The body moves in a field due to inertia. The difference between this velocity and the velocity of the field (which Einstein describes as the curvature of space) leads to the final outcome of such motion. A projectile falls to ground not because gravity pulls it down, but due to the interaction between its velocity and the velocity of the wind. When wind velocity is in the same direction, it falls at a longer distance and vice versa. The difference in velocities creates a bow-shock effect that gradually reduces the velocity of the projectile. The density difference between the field (air) and the projectile guides it in the direction of earth, with a higher density, so that it could stop the fall. We agree that we are pushing the Earth and the Earth is pushing us. But this only proves our point. There is nothing like a free fall. Solid matter (including BEC that propagate through conduction) has the special characteristic of moving through other mediums because the strong force is really strongest among all forces. The less dense fluids (including gases that propagate through convection or diffusion) cannot break its bonding and move through it without changing its state. The plasma (including photons that propagate through radiation) belongs to a class apart. This is what you describe as the resilient capacity. But still it does not prove attraction. In any case, as we have pointed out, we are an amateur (arm-chair scientist!). Hence we beg to be excused for using the non-technical language.
We do not agree with the Coulombs law, but hold the opposite view that only similars attract each other. As we have already said, the protons have a positive charge that is a little less in magnitude than that of an electron and neutrons has a little residual negative charge. Thus, the combination of a proton and an electron is slightly negative. Thus, hydrogen atom is not charge neutral, but highly reactive. The negative charge of the neutron attracts the negative charge of the proton-electron combine and the respective positive charges also attract each other because of the inertia of restoration as long as both are confined in a body. This leads to four types of interactions including proton decay, which we consider as the fourth fundamental interaction. We treat gravity as the fifth fundamental force that stabilizes. Only this way we can combine all fundamental forces of Nature and reach a Theory of Everything.
The seemingly opposite charges attracting each other can be explained as above only if we treat all objects including quarks as compounds. This is our composite field structure. The pure field is beyond this.
Regarding your interpretation of “temporally nothing”, we will like to add something. The analog time cannot be perceived completely just like analog space. This leads us to two different areas. Each universe is a digital entity, which appears as analog to us. In that sense space is “created” and so is time. We refer to this time only. Even our singularity refers to this time and space. We cannot fathom analog time and space. Regarding perception, we will like to expand your ideas infinitely. Humans are not the only one’s that can perceive. Even cats or for that matter, other life forms can perceive. The difference is only in degrees. While plants and primitive life forms have the capability to perceive touch, all animals and birds born out of eggs are deficient in one of the sense organs. While those born out of mother’s wombs have all the sense organs, they do not function as harmoniously as those of the human beings. Additionally, the surface area of the brain to the body mass ratio is highest in the human beings. This way, we are at the apex of the animal kingdom. But what about inert objects or life forms with extra sensory perception? Unless we define consciousness, we cannot get the right answer. And that is possible only when we go beyond the quantum. We are not discussing it here as it is neither the right time nor the right forum for that.
From the above, you can see that there is no fundamental difference in our approaches. It is only fundamental inhibitions that separate us from each other. If we discuss everything with an open mind, we will easily overcome these problems. But the modern system of education, where certain statements are certified as the ultimate truth, and knowledge is measured by one’s ability to memorize and reproduce those “truths”, has introduced the cult of superstition among students. Added to this is the race for immediate recognition that discourages students from looking back and analyzing the validity of the statements they work on for fear of being left behind. Thus, they choose patch work over new structures. The scientific community does not want to leave the cozy life they are leading at public expenses. Hence to keep their numerous failures under the wraps, they perpetuate the cult of incomprehensibility. Thus, we here statements like “looking ahead inside the black hole, you will see the back of your mind.” And since they are not able to cope with all data, they resort to reductionism. There is an anecdote relating to six blind men, who went to see one elephant. Each touched one part of it and described the elephant based on that knowledge. Though each one is correct from the reductionist’s point of view, no one get a clear picture about the elephant even after combing all the statements. There is an anecdote related to Eddington, when he was explaining to Russell about relativity. He said that even if a dictator wants to control the universe, he cannot do it, because whatever orders he may send to a remote place, it will take some time to travel to those parts. To the question of Russell as to how God controls the universe, Eddington replied that it is not his subject. This mind set has not left this competition also. You will find that we have commented on the measurement problem relating to strings in one of the essays. Though he was dealing with strings, he commented that he is not concerned about measurement problem. Anyway, it is not our province either.
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basudeba.
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Anonymous replied on Feb. 2, 2011 @ 20:55 GMT
Dear Basudeba
Thank you for your detail explanation. I think I am starting to understand your ideas. But I think that I need more background to fully understand it, for this reason I ask you for the book.
Regarding your predictions what I can notice is that your theory provides another explanation or interpretation to well known facts. By saying that the charges of quarks are not thirds but elevenths and that they add up to 10/11, that gravity is not an attractive force, the value of the structure constant, the values of pi, phi, etc. This is for me a reinterpretation, and re-estimation of the physics and values of these things. But what I meant is what new things or physics does your theory predicts? What phenomena no yet known or discovered does your theory predict? I hope you understand my questions.
Now, you claim that you have achieved a TOE. I have a very high notion of a TOE, I hold the position that knowledge has limits. And when one claims that one has a TOE, I understand that this theory explains natural phenomena completely. If this is so, mankind finally understands the mysteries of nature and life. If we totally understand nature, we can control it at will. So, I am curious about your claim. Is your theory a TOE or a theory of almost everything?
In relation to perception I agree with you that everything has a perception, a stone, plant, animal... this is the theory of Teilhard De Chardin. But these perceptions have not achieved what we humans have, in these sense we are unique. I do not know another thing that has achieved what we humans have.
I hope we can continue discussing these topics beyond this forum
Kind regards
Israel
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basudeba replied on Feb. 3, 2011 @ 03:41 GMT
Dear Sir,
Thanks for your comments and giving us an opportunity to explain our ideas. We had not only provided “another interpretation” to well known facts, but sitting on our chair, have derived these from fundamental principles. You will notice that the electric charge of protons and neutrons has not been measured, as it has not been possible to isolate these with the current levels of...
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Dear Sir,
Thanks for your comments and giving us an opportunity to explain our ideas. We had not only provided “another interpretation” to well known facts, but sitting on our chair, have derived these from fundamental principles. You will notice that the electric charge of protons and neutrons has not been measured, as it has not been possible to isolate these with the current levels of technology. Yet, indirect evidence suggests that our values are correct and those that are currently accepted are wrong. The present notion that the electric charge of protons is +1 and that of neutrons is -1 is based on the assumption that atom is charge neutral. We have proved that this assumption is wrong. The latest findings support our view. Thus, the entire concept of atoms and subatomic particles needs to be revised, because we have derived everything from only one theory, which in turn has been derived from fundamental principles.
Secondly, we do not accept G to be a universal constant. This in itself is a big enough revolution. Our view on gravity leads to the grand unified theory, which is no insignificant step. We have given an explanation for the charge interaction by proving the Coulomb’s law wrong. From this we can derive the fundamental forces of Nature. Further we have derived all theories simply from inertia and avoiding all complex mathematics. In short, what we are attempting is to re-write the whole of physics. Regarding your question: “What phenomena no yet known or discovered does your theory predict?”, our answer is the phenomenon of the observer is fully explained in our theory. You might have noticed our frequent reference to perception. In fact we have referred to elasticity as inertia of restoration. But left out “thought”, which is the inertia of mind (along with inertia of motion, we accept three types of inertia). We are not coming out openly fully to avoid plagiarism that is rampant in scientific circles. Soon we will bring out our book, which will deal with these subjects fully.
We agree that knowledge has limits. In fact this is the essence of our theory, because it is one of the fundamental principles. Yet, our theory can explain natural phenomena completely. We do not agree that: “If we totally understand nature, we can control it at will.” Knowledge is different from action that is the application of force. Both are different from the objects on which the force is applied. Application of force can be of two types: application by a conscious observer (based on his knowledge) and perpetual application of mechanical force. Knowledge is the initial condition for application of force. Incompleteness of our knowledge generates the inertia of restoration through a different mechanism that induces the conscious agent to apply force, which leads to measurement, perception of whose result is knowledge. To achieve complete knowledge, there is a continual pressure leading to the creation. If we can have full knowledge, there will be no inertia of restoration – hence no application of force, no measurement, no perception and no knowledge itself to describe anything. In the second case of perpetual action, we cannot control it because of our physical limitations, but can have knowledge about it to harmonize its effect to our desire. Lack of knowledge on this count has led to science being utilized for destructive purposes. In fact, one of the reasons for delay in publishing our book is the apprehension that this knowledge may be misused by unscrupulous elements. After all it is the age of technology and technology is guided by commerce, which is another name for maximization of short-term profit irrespective of long-term effects to remain ahead of competitors.
With Kind Regards.
basudeba.
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Feb. 3, 2011 @ 05:53 GMT
Dear Basubeda
Thank you for your reply.
You: Secondly, we do not accept G to be a universal constant. This in itself is a big enough revolution... In short, what we are attempting is to re-write the whole of physics.
I understand that G should vary to explain astronomical observations.
In these respects I also propose that c is not constant. You can find the reasons for this in some of the attachments given in some posts above. And I also agree that physics should be formulated and conceptualized anew to be coherent and consistent, but this is a titanic task that a man alone cannot do. And if he could he most probably would be ignored by the mainstream of physicists. You may probably know this.
You: We are not coming out openly fully to avoid plagiarism that is rampant in scientific circles. Soon we will bring out our book, which will deal with these subjects fully.
I understand this and the bad or good use of science. Knowledge is sometimes dangerous. In my attachments above I cite the theory of Christov which predicts the existence of a new type of waves not yet detected or generated. If they are generated it would constitute a triumph for his unified theory. Please take a look at his papers (references 18-23 in my essay). You should not worry about plagiarism or misuse, you should worry about the acknowledgment of your work by the physics community. If they are not accepted your efforts will be in vain. Working for one's satisfaction is ok, but I think that a worthy work should be acknowledged otherwise it would be a shame for mankind; it would become trash or, if lucky, it would be piled up with the bunch of forgotten works in physics.
You: Knowledge is different from action that is the application of force....If we can have full knowledge, there will be no inertia of restoration – hence no application of force, no measurement, no perception and no knowledge itself to describe anything...
I am sorry but I did not fully understand this paragraph. You introduce some unusual ideas that are not easy to grasp (at first sight) without the background that you have.
Kind regards
Israel
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basudeba replied on Feb. 3, 2011 @ 06:41 GMT
Dear Sir,
We totally agree with your views. The velocity of light is not constant as it varies depending upon the density of the medium. Since space is not empty, it has variable densities at different localities. Thus c cannot be a constant.
Regarding your other observations, we can only say that we are more concerned regarding misuse of knowledge that propagation of knowledge. Imagine what will happen if the terrorists get the knowledge of advanced technologies in the field of missile development and atomic bombs. It is better for the world not to know these secrets than to know and then get destroyed.
Regarding your last observation, we rest for the time being. The book which we have forwarded to you contains only definitions. Our next book, when published, will deal with these questions elaborately. Incidentally, we have commented on relativity in the post of Rafael Emmanuel Castel (Discete and Continous realities according to fundamental laws of nature). You may like to go through it.
Regards,
Basudeba.
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Feb. 3, 2011 @ 17:53 GMT
Dear Basudeba
I agree that knowledge should be handle with care. Releasing knowledge rampantly would be irresponsible and naive. So, I wish you the best in your enterprise. When you are ready to publicize your work please let me know. I would really appreciate it. As I told you before we should all agree in one theory and in one philosophy, so I hope we could keep in touch beyond this forum.
I thank you for the invitation to see the Castel's post.
Good luck in the contest
Israel
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basudeba replied on Feb. 7, 2011 @ 04:32 GMT
Dear Sir,
Similarities in integrity, thought and preferences makes friends. We share it all. Thus, we are destined to be friends.
Regards,
basudeba.
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Steve Dufourny replied on Feb. 10, 2011 @ 12:28 GMT
Hi to both of you,
I thank you dear Basudeba, I just received your book yesterday, apparently 15 days were necessary for the travel India-Belgium.It's nice in all case.I thank you still.It's cool to have friends from all over the world.
I find your book very intersting and relevant.I see you use the word sphere, I am happy to see people focus on my theory of spherization or have some convergences, spherical.I like also the omnipresence and omnipotence.
Best regards and good luck in this contest to both of you
Steve
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Feb. 10, 2011 @ 18:30 GMT
Hi Steve
Good luck too.
Israel
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re castel wrote on Jan. 31, 2011 @ 12:32 GMT
After reading your posts, I thought perhaps you guys should read my essay
Discrete and Continuous Realities According to Fundamental Laws of Nature. I'd be obliged to answer your questions if you have any.
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Jan. 31, 2011 @ 21:42 GMT
Dear Castel
Thank you for your invitation. I will take a look at your essay, if I have any comment or question I will let you know.
Good luck in the contest
Kind regards
Israel
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Barkat Ram wrote on Jan. 31, 2011 @ 13:33 GMT
i wonder that the way we have developed our Physics thus far, based on the concepts of space and time, may have some inadequacies! I wonder if these two concepts can isolate multiverses that may well exist. Distortions in space and time are well possible, specially at the start of a new universe like ours. But then has it come out of a Big bang that may well have been an outcome of earlier universes colliding!
Physical constants and space time inhomogeneity may well pose problems. Constants may not be constants for all times and space too. If space can be expanded behind a space ship and compressed in its front, it may well propel the vehicle to exceed the speed limit of 'c'e
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Jan. 31, 2011 @ 21:46 GMT
Dear Barkat
Thank you for your comments. I think one should distinguish what a theory is and to what extent the theory describes reality. You may consider a theory with several constants, or you may consider another theory with no constants. No matter your approach it must be consistent to a high degree of accuracy with observations. That is all I can say.
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Israel
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basudeba replied on Feb. 7, 2011 @ 04:46 GMT
Dear Mr. Barkat Ram,
We thank you for raised a very important point that is befitting the Foundational Questions Institute Forum. Most scientists running after name and fame and the benefits of Office ignore foundational questions and run after patch work. For example, though there are various interpretations of quantum physics that sometimes contradict each other, most quote general quantum theory without naming the specific interpretation and resolving the differences with other interpretations, but drawing from different theories what suits them to justify their view. Ultimately they end up in some conjecture like the flowers of the sky. They discuss everything about it such as structure, texture and smell etc. without proving its existence, but only assuring that one day it will be found. So we have big projects like LHC at public expenses with which the scientists can make merry.
We recommend you to read our essay and our comments here in earlier posts in answer to Mr.Perez and those of Mr. Buehlman, Mr. Akerlund, Mr. Biermans, Mr. Castel, Mr. Granel, etc.
Regards,
basudeba.
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Rodney Bartlett wrote on Feb. 2, 2011 @ 03:29 GMT
I know I can't submit another essay. I don't plan to - these are just some comments that came to mind after thinking about my essay. They don't seem very relevant to the topic "Is Reality Digital or Analog?" but writing them has given even more satisfaction than writing the essay, and I'm in the mood to share them with the whole world. So if you've got time to read them...
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I know I can't submit another essay. I don't plan to - these are just some comments that came to mind after thinking about my essay. They don't seem very relevant to the topic "Is Reality Digital or Analog?" but writing them has given even more satisfaction than writing the essay, and I'm in the mood to share them with the whole world. So if you've got time to read them ...
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I fully realise that my essay doesn’t sound like science at all. I can appreciate that many readers think it belongs to science fiction and fantasy. It does have saving graces though. I’m amazed at how well it fits in with the discoveries of the Microwave Anisotropy Probe and with string theory, culminating in the LHC’s experimentally verified strings and my prediction of antistrings. Having said that, I must say this – it’s very strange that the scientific world is so obsessed with mathematics (admittedly, my essay did dabble with it when offering a version of E=mc2 to suit the digital world - but I kept it very simple ... so simple it might be regarded as wrong). Math seems to be regarded as infallible, even though it leads to mistakes. The (partial) mistake I have in mind is string theory. I don't deny that there certainly is value in the theory, and in maths, but logic reveals shortcomings. Let me explain, after first writing a short section describing an unconventional approach to unveiling unification and offering an alternative to the Higgs boson that relies on gravitational waves.
ALTERNATIVE TO HIGGS BOSON
An important step might be to think of "... the grand design of the universe, a single theory that explains everything" (words used by Stephen Hawking on the American version of Amazon, when promoting his latest book “The Grand Design” – coauthored with Leonard Mlodinow, Bantam Books, 2010) in a different way than physicists who are presently working on science's holy grail of unification. The universe’s underlying electronic foundation* (which makes our cosmos into a partially-complete unification, similar to 2 objects which appear billions of years or billions of light-years apart on a huge computer screen actually being unified by the strings of ones and zeros making up the computer code which is all in one small place) would make our cosmos into physics’ holy grail of a complete unification if it enabled not only elimination of all distances in space and time, but also elimination of distance between (and including) the different sides of objects and particles. This last point requires the universe to not merely be a vast collection of the countless photons, electrons and other quantum particles within it; but to be a unified whole that has “particles” and “waves” built into its union of digital 1’s and 0’s (or its union of qubits – quantum binary digits). If we use the example of CGH (computer generated holography, these "particles" and "waves" could be elements produced by the interaction of electromagnetic and presently undiscovered gravitational waves, producing what we know as mass and forming what we know as space-time. Einstein predicted the existence of gravitational waves, and measurements on the Hulse-Taylor binary-star system resulted in Russell Hulse and Joe Taylor being awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1993 for their work, which was the first indirect evidence for gravitational waves. The feedback of the past and future universes into the unified cosmos's electronic foundation would ensure that both past and future could not be altered. Our brains and minds are part of this unification too - which must mean extrasensory perception and telekinetic independence from technology are possible, despite modern science's objections to these phenomena which appear to be based on non-unification.
* For more information on the universe's proposed electronic foundation, please see my article and postings at
http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/814
STRINGS ARE ONLY PART OF MATTER'S BASIS
Space and time only exist in our experience. They are emergent properties, like wetness and mind. We experience wetness because it emerges from the building blocks of the hydrogen and oxygen atoms which make up water. We experience mind because it emerges from the building blocks of neurons composing the brain. And we experience space-time since it emerges from the building blocks making up the universe. These units are a combination of electromagnetic pulses (forming a cosmic computer which includes randomness and thus the potential to escape rigid preprogramming, and have a small degree of free will) as well as a cosmic hologram (this is produced by the interaction of electromagnetic plus gravitational waves and combination of the holographic aspect with the electronic aspect unifies general relativity with quantum physics). Every physical and nonphysical part of the universal hologram would be a receptor for the downloading of data from the cosmic computer which not only exists in the hyperspace of the large-scale universe but also in the hyperspace of each subatomic particle. (In other words, the holographic universe or spacetime we know is a screen for displaying data from the 5th-dimensional computer.)
It might be helpful to visualise time as the playing of a CD or video tape. The entire disc or tape obviously exists all the time. But our physical senses can only perceive a tiny part of the sound and the sights at any fraction of a second. I believe space and time are infinite, so it might be more accurate to visualise time as that HUGE number - in this case, of CDs or tapes - which some versions of string theory propose (10 exponent 500). My essay tells you exactly how to travel to the future, how to return home, and how to travel into our past. Neither future nor past can be altered (a blow to our belief that we have the free will to shape the future) and my explanation of travel to the past requires re-interpretation of the concepts of "multiverse" and "parallel universes". It also requires the ability to travel billions of light years INSTANTLY - no doubt many readers will instantly dismiss the essay because their preconceptions "know" this simply isn't possible. It indeed sounds like pure fantasy, but I outline an approach based on electrical engineering, General Relativity, and Miguel Alcubierre's 1994 proposal of "warp drive" that makes it logically possible.
My essay explains why the universe is a Mobius loop and how it is contained in, or unified with, each of its particles (relying on physical senses or 21st-century scientific instruments would make this statement ridiculous). Then each fermion and boson would also be composed of the 3 spatial dimensions, the 4th dimension of time, and the 5th dimension of hyperspace. Detectors like the Large Hadron Collider would be unable to "see" the time and hyperspace components of particles but could only see the small (maybe 5% of the whole) 3 spatial dimensions (the time component would be what we call dark matter), erroneously assuming particles are those small fractions of a Mobius loop that physics calls strings. "Dark matter" would exert a gravitational influence because time, being part of a curved Mobius loop (whether of quantum or cosmic scale), would push objects together in the same way Einstein's curved space-time pushes objects together. We can speak of the HST now - no, not the Hubble Space Telescope but Hyperspatial SpaceTime. We can visualise the Mobius loop as composed of a hyperspace computer which generates information on how things change from one presently undetectably tiny fraction of a second to the next (we call this time, and it's comparable to the frames in a movie) and transmits the data (transmits dark energy) to the insignificant portion of length, width and depth that makes up subatomic particles ... and the universe.
Preceding the Big Bang (which created this local section of the infinite, eternal universe ... or if you prefer, this subuniverse of the megauniverse) there would have been no space, matter or time in this subuniverse. No transmissions of dark energy (creating time and space/matter) would have occurred - therefore the dark-energy content of the universe would have been zero, increasing to the present 72% as more and more matter was created. How is matter created? Perhaps as cosmologist Alan Guth once suggested -
"You might even be able to start a new universe using energy equivalent to just a few pounds of matter. Provided you could find some way to compress it to a density of about 10^75 (10 exponent 75) grams per cubic centimeter, and provided you could trigger the thing ..."
At the time the Cosmic Microwave Background was emitted (less than a million years after the big bang), results from the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe say the dark-energy content of the universe was negligible. Space/matter has been increasing since the big bang so transmissions from hyperspace computer (dark energy) which create them are increasing while the volume of the Mobius loop occupied by time/hyperspace (dark matter) has been shrinking as a result - according to the WMAP satellite, from 63% when the CMB was emitted to 23% today. Why isn't dark energy increasing at the same rate dark matter is decreasing? It must be because, as stated earlier, both time and hyperspace exert a gravitational influence, thereby mimicking space and matter to a degree. This mimicry causes the dark matter between the start of the CMB and the present to decrease by only about 40% while dark energy increases in the same period by about 70%. If we were dealing with a simple and ordinary loop, this similarity would cause dark matter and dark energy to be more or less equal and if there was any difference in their amount of decrease/increase, it would be in the same direction. But we’re talking about Mobius loops which are like strips of paper that have been twisted 180 degrees before the ends are joined. This causes their variation to go in different directions (one increases, the other decreases) and the amount of variation is quite significant (+72%, -40%). My guess is that the real-life twist occurs in the temporal segment of the loop, enabling a traveller in time to go in different directions i.e. into the future or into the past. To replenish dark matter in billions of years, we merely have to extend Guth's proposal by using the knowledge of that time to create more matter.
A real-life Mobius is by no means a featureless loop, however. If, contrary to our impressions, the universe is unified with each particle it’s composed of; the WMAP satellite’s findings must apply to the quantum world. The figures 72%, 23% and 5% would not only describe the present universe’s content of dark energy, dark matter and ordinary matter but also any particle’s content of space or ordinary matter (5%), time or dark matter (23% - time is considered to be dark matter here because dark matter is regarded as ordinary matter invisible to us since it’s present in another region of the dimension we call time, just as most of a sphere is in another dimension and consequently appears as a dot when first entering Edwin Abbott’s 1884 exploration of other dimensions called “Flatland”), and hyperspace (72%: the transmissions from the hyperspace computer create space and matter, cause expansion of space on cosmic scales where there are no forces to overcome the expansion as there is in matter, and are known as dark energy – creating more matter causes that matter’s repelling gravity to bring about accelerating expansion).
Look at a picture of a Mobius (thanks to the repeating scales of fractal geometry, the apparently empty interior and exterior of the Mobius universe would actually be the same as the visible loop). Imagine the space/ordinary matter to be situated immediately counterclockwise (perhaps on the bottom of the loop) to the hyperspace segment and the time/dark matter portion to be immediately counterclockwise to the space/ordinary matter (time/dark matter would, moving clockwise, be next to the hyperspace segment).
The hyperspace transmissions flow directly into space/matter (all motion - “flow” and “transmissions” – are actually comparable to individual frames in a movie but are spoken of in everyday terms of motion for convenience, like saying the sun rises and sets) and are responsible for the large and unimpeded 72% increase, since the CMB was emitted, of dark energy. This flow rate of 72% also enters the time/dark matter section adjacent to hyperspace … but the loop’s twist seems to be in the time section. If we were to cut the loop lengthwise with scissors, previously varying the number of half-twists results in things such as two rings linked together or a knotted ring. So we get barriers to motion and blockages. Returning to the normal loop and twist, matters are less drastic and motion is merely slowed, resulting in a 23% flow rate.
If we lived in a non-unified universe of materialism, this is how things would remain (dark matter would have increased so today’s content would be a low 23%). On p. 179 of “The Grand Design” by Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow (Bantam Press, 2010) it’s stated “One requirement any law of nature must satisfy is that it dictates that the energy of an isolated body surrounded by empty space is positive …”
The only problem with that sentence, in an “everything is everywhere and everywhen” universe, is the word isolated. There can be no such thing as isolated in our cosmic-quantum unification. Page 179 also says “… if the energy of an isolated body were negative … there would be no reason that bodies could not appear anywhere and everywhere.” Does this mean you and I (plus all things in time and space) are a union of both positive and negative energy, able to display both separateness/solidity (isolation) as well as the potential to appear anywhere and everywhere? Dark matter, not being entirely positive, would be anywhere and everywhere as well as having decreased so today’s content would be a low 23% (which is what WMAP says is the case).
If everything is a union of positive and negative energy, every matter particle and force-carrying particle would be too. And the strings the Large Hadron Collider might detect (being the parts of particles’ Mobius loops it could see since those parts would be space/ordinary matter) might come in both positive and negative varieties. In 1928 English physicist Paul Dirac (1902-84) proposed that all negative energy states are already occupied by (then hypothetical) antiparticles (particles of antimatter). Building on this results in proposal of strings and antistrings.
My essay tells you how to travel into the future, how to return home, and how to take a trip into our past. Regarding travel beyond our start and into the past ... it can’t be denied that these paragraphs imply the possibility of humans from the distant future time-travelling to the distant past and using electronics to create this particular subuniverse's computer-generated Big Bang. An accomplishment such as this would be the supreme example of “backward causality” (effects influencing causes) promoted by Yakir Aharonov, John Cramer and others. However, realising that we live in a cosmic-quantum unification with zero-separation and recalling Isaac Newton’s inverse-square law and what it says about the force between two particles being infinite (does infinite mean 10 ^ 500, the HUGE number of universes proposed by some versions of string theory?) if the distance of separation goes to zero means there's still room for God (another bit of scientifically objectionable science fiction?) because God would be a pantheistic union of the megauniverse's material and mental parts, forming a union with humans in a cosmic unification.
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Rodney Bartlett wrote on Feb. 7, 2011 @ 03:00 GMT
According to the Community Ratings, my essay in the 2011 Essay Contest is sliding further down the ratings each day. But I'm having more luck with a science journal called General Science Journal - comments of mine inspired by the essay (which are nearly 20,000 words long and include comments about "The Nature of Time" as well as "Is Reality Digital or Analog?") were published in the Journal on Feb. 6 and may be viewed at http://gsjournal.net/ntham/bartlett.pdf
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Steev Dufourny replied on Feb. 7, 2011 @ 13:46 GMT
Hi dear Rodney,
Don't stop,never, you are creative.You just need to improve a little your foundamentals.I wan't discourage you.But I think it's important to show you the road of rationalism.The mass, the light, the time have their properties and they are universal you know.
ps the higgs has an external cause of mass, that's why they are probably and with a big probability false,because our fractal of mass is newtonian and purely irreversible.The cause of mass is intrinsic in all gravitational systems which evolve furthermore.
Best Regards
Steve
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Rodney Bartlett wrote on Feb. 9, 2011 @ 02:20 GMT
Hi Steve,
Thanks a lot for your kind words and encouragement. I won't stop ... not ever! I often want to, because I don't enjoy controversy at all. But I always end up finding another place where I want to promote my ideas. I guess human nature makes it impossible to give up when a person has no doubt he or she is on the right track.
Sometimes, what science accepts as fundamentals have to change. People once had a fundamental belief that the world was flat - and that space and time were absolutes which could never vary - and that traveling to the moon was simply fantasy. All those fundamental beliefs changed though, understandably, not without a fight (change is never easy). Now it's time for some more fundamental beliefs - both public and scientific - to change.
I hope Israel will forgive us for taking over his page sometimes. It might be a good idea to post any more of our comments on the page for my essay ("Steps Resulting From Digital Reality" -
Please visit
my FQXi page
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Feb. 10, 2011 @ 18:33 GMT
Dear Rodney
It's ok, you may post anything you wish, no problem.
Good luck
Israel
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Steve Dufourny replied on Feb. 12, 2011 @ 10:10 GMT
Hi to both of you,
Dear Israel, it's cool.
Dear Rodney,you are welcome,...... never indeed !
Best
Steve
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basudeba wrote on Feb. 9, 2011 @ 16:06 GMT
Dear Sir,
We cannot understand why scientists have to resort to weirdness to explain physical phenomena. Confinement and Entanglement are not quantum phenomena alone, but they have macro examples also. Superposition of states arises out of the mechanism of measurement, which has been sensationalized by imputing imaginary characteristics to it.
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Dear Sir,
We cannot understand why scientists have to resort to weirdness to explain physical phenomena. Confinement and Entanglement are not quantum phenomena alone, but they have macro examples also. Superposition of states arises out of the mechanism of measurement, which has been sensationalized by imputing imaginary characteristics to it.
As we have explained in our essay, every particle in the Universe is ever moving with respect to something or the other. Measurement is conducted at a designated instant called “here-now” and the result of that measurement is used at subsequent times, when the particle no longer retains those characteristics, but has temporally evolved. Thus, only its state at the said instant can be known with certainty. It’s true state before and after measurement, which is not a single state, but an ever changing state, cannot be known. This unknown state, which is a composite of all possible states, is known as the superposition of states.
When two objects retain their original relationship after being physically separated, such relationship is called entanglement. Suppose someone while traveling forgot to take one of the pair of socks. The individual sock of the pair is complementary to the other. They cannot be used in isolation. If someone asks, ‘which of the pairs has gone with the traveler’, the answer will be unknown till someone at either end finds out by physical verification. This is a macro example of entanglement. Before the verification (measurement) was done; which one went out was not known. It could have been either one (superposition of all states). After measurement the answer is conclusively known (wave function collapses). There is no need to unnecessarily sensationalize it. The quantum entanglement can be easily explained if we examine the nature of confinement and the measure the distance up to which entanglement shows up (generally, it is not infinite, but lasts up to a maximum of a few kilo meters only).
Not only quarks, but also all particles are confined. LHC has surprised physicists / cosmologists that the early universe was a ‘perfect fluid’ and not an ‘explosion of gases’ that is the basis of all current theories. Particles are nothing but confined fluids; that is described as the primordial field. The mechanism by which this fluid is confined will be discussed separately (using simple verifiable models and without Higg’s mechanism). Just like only the atoms (molecules) and their combinations exhibit definite chemical properties, only quarks are the first particles to exhibit this property of confinement. Hence if we try to break their confinement, the applied energy leads to formation of other quarks not due to uncertainty principle, but due to simple mechanism of inertia of motion and inertia of restoration (elasticity). Even within the confinement, the up quarks change to down quarks and vice versa. This property is exhibited by all particles. For every micro particle there are macro equivalents. For example, Jupiter is the macro equivalent of proton.
Confinement requires a central stable point around which the mass (confined field) accumulates and the external limit of the confinement which gives rise to the stabilized orbits. There is space between these two positions. This gives a three fold structure. Since inside the particle, it is all fluid or locally confined fluid (sub-systems), it is unstable. If some force is applied to move a smaller portion of the fluid, it generates an equal force in the opposite direction. This is exhibited as the charge of the particle. Where this force interacts with other forces, it may become non-linear. Otherwise, it behaves linearly. The linear behavior is known as quantum entanglement. Electrons and photons are special cases of this confined fluid.
Regarding Relativity, we have proved in other posts that it is a wrong description of facts and that Einstein’s mathematics is wrong. Since it is very lengthy, we are not reproducing it here. Those interested may read our post below the essay of Mr. Castel and Mr. Granet.
Regards,
basudeba
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Feb. 10, 2011 @ 18:37 GMT
Dear Basubeda
I am sorry but I do not know what you are referring to.
Israel
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Feb. 18, 2011 @ 20:19 GMT
Dear Basubeda
I apologize for my late reply, I been very busy these days. I have reread your comments in more detail and I agree with your view. I also hold the idea that the underlying substance of material particles is a fluid. Physicists resort to metaphysical assumptions just to make the theories to match with observations, although this way of proceeding sometimes complicate even more the situation (at the long term). I also believe that quantum mechanical concepts are in need of reinterpretation under a more coherent conceptual framework (epistemological coherence), what you say about entanglement is true. But I believe that if you differ from the way this problem has been treated for the last 80 years, you should put forward your view, this is the only way things can change and this is what I try to do.
As for Relativity Einstein did what he could in his age with the philosophical and mathematical tools he had at hand. In his time his approach worked very well and it remains to be the prevailing paradigm because of his axiomatic formulation that allows us to apply the deductive method promoted by K. Popper. But from my view, one can see Relativity as a simple geometrical model in analogy with the Ptolemaic system which worked very well although the underlying reality was not the correct one. Now it is really hard for mainstream physicists to get rid of some prejudices, like the principle of relativity and the deductive method.
Thank you for your comments, I will take a look at the essays of Castel and Granet.
Kind Regards
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Anton W.M. Biermans wrote on Feb. 11, 2011 @ 02:59 GMT
Dear Israel,
As to the 'epistemological coherence' of your essay, a real consistent view exposes string theory to be the product of some fundamental misconceptions. If the universe creates itself without any outside intervention, then particles have to create themselves, each other. The consequence is that fundamental particles then are as much the source as the product of their interactions. Since they obviously need to acquire some kind of backbone to prevent their properties to vary continuously as the circumstances vary, their properties, energy, the energy interval within which they are stable, must be quantified. If particles are as much the source as the product of their interactions, then so is the force between them, so a force cannot be either attractive or repulsive. This means that though particles, within the conditions they are stable, may act as if they either attract or repulse, as their energy also is the product of their interactions, they have no absolute charge or mass which can give rise to infinite interaction energies at infinitesimal distances, so there's no need for string theory. Since the mass of particles similarly is the cause as well as the effect of their interactions, of their energy exchange, we need no Higgs particles either. A universe which finds a way to create itself, can hardly stop creating: it is this continuous creation process which gives rise to the observation that masses contract, the effect of which is that spacetime between the mass concentrations expands. For details see my thread 838.
Regards, Anton
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Feb. 12, 2011 @ 01:10 GMT
Dear Anton
Thank you for your interest. Indeed, I believe that string theory lacks epistemological coherence. In order for the physics community to believe in this theory, string theorists should give first an ontological notion of dimension. To arbitrary propose 10 or 26 or n dimensions just because this is the only way that the theory becomes mathematically consistent it is unphysical and incoherent.
As to the creation of the universe and particles, I understand creation as becoming something out of nothing, I am not sure if you are thinking in this sense.
If the universe or the particles create themselves out of nothing they are violating the conservation of energy. This is not allowed even by the principle of Heisenberg.
Kind Regards
Israel
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Anton W.M. Biermans wrote on Feb. 12, 2011 @ 01:43 GMT
Dear Israel,
You write: ---If the universe or the particles create themselves out of nothing they are violating the conservation of energy. This is not allowed even by the principle of Heisenberg."---
My point (see my essay) is that since the energy of a photon in one phase is as positive as it is negative in the next, there's no law violated as energy is created out of nothing. In the 2-split experiment, no energy is liberated as two photons annihilate, nor has their source lost any energy by emitting them. As positive as it is negative, energy doesn't have to obey conservation laws (which is why it can create itself out of nothing in the first place): it is the expression of all such laws, their enforcer.
The uncertainty principle, in the form dE . dt = 1, shows that energy and time create, define each other, so an energy quantum creates itself the time necessary to exist, to manifest itself. In other words, there's no authority outside/before the universe who's looking on his/her/its watch to monitor whether something pops up which might violate conservation laws: the universe doesn't exist IN time, but produces time itself.
Regards, Anton
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Feb. 12, 2011 @ 04:03 GMT
Dear Anton
That is precisely what I mean by epistemological coherence. To me it is not coherent to say that something is created out of nothing. I understand "nothing" as the total absence of something, if the nothing exists then it is no longer nothing it becomes something. And not only becomes something but it must be made of something (say energy, or matter) otherwise it does not exist, is an invention of my imagination.
On the other hand, when I said "...even by the principle of Heisenberg" I was referring precisely to the form dE . dt = 1. The ordinary interpretation of this equation is that energy can be created out of nothing for the short period of time dt... this is a misinterpretation. Please take a look in wikipedia for some arguments like this: "Another common misconception is that the energy-time uncertainty principle says that the conservation of energy can be temporarily violated – energy can be "borrowed" from the Universe as long as it is "returned" within a short amount of time..." One should be careful with the interpretation of this form, since time is not an observable in quantum mechanics but only a parameter.
I will take a look at your essay to better understand what you mean. If I have some comments I will let you know.
Kind Regards
Israel
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Anton W.M. Biermans replied on Feb. 13, 2011 @ 02:43 GMT
Dear Perez
As I haven't explicitly described a creation mechanism in my essay, I try to do so now: One of the uses of the uncertainty principle is to describe how the energy of a particle varies as the bosons it emits to express its properties only on average equals the number it absorbs, so its energy varies in time. Instead of interpreting the uncertainty principle as saying that a temporary deviation of its textbook energy lasts shorter as the deviation is larger, I propose that fundamental particles borrow and lend ALL of their energy from and to each other. So if a virtual particle by popping up with a positive energy, creates an identical particle with a negative energy, then they don't borrow energy from the universe, but from each other. However, as soon as their time is up, they'll disappear to randomly pop up elsewhere, unless in the time they exist, they can set up an energy exchange with other particles which find themselves in a similar quandary. By alternately borrowing and lending each other (part of) the energy they need to exist, particles can force each other to reappear after every disappearance again and again at about the same position. As the energy, the frequency they exchange energy at (the frequency they pop up, disappear and pop up again) is higher as their distance is smaller, they can increase each other's energy by contracting. So this is a scenario by means of which virtual particles may promote each other to real ones. Unlike a battery which only is a source of energy, the energy of particles then is as much the source as the product of their exchange. By regarding the energy of fundamental particles to be much like that of a battery, as if it only is the cause of interactions, we implicitly assert that they have passively been created by some intervention from outside the universe, thereby corrupting physics to metaphysics. If particles, their energy and properties are as much the source as the product of their interactions, then so is the force between them, so in a self-creating universe where particles have to create one another, a force (at least at quantum level) never can be either attractive or repulsive. As particles contract, the frequency of their exchange increases as does the gravitational field of the particle cluster. As the field slows down in time events inside of it, an energy increase tends to preserve itself above a decrease, which is why gravity seems an attractive force. I hope this may help to understand my tale.
Kind regards, Anton
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Anton W.M. Biermans replied on Feb. 14, 2011 @ 01:33 GMT
Dear Israel,
I must have been a bit absentminded when I addressed you with your surname- my apologies. What I meant to say with my previous reaction is that we've always assumed a particle to be like a battery, its energy and voltage in this case varying about the value specified by the manufacturer (implying particles to have been created). We've always assumed that the cause of this fluctuation in its energy is that the battery-particle, to communicate its existence, emits energy, which if it is to preserve its own existence must be repleted by absorbing as much energy from its environment, so you'd expect its energy to fluctuate about the specified 'voltage'. However, fundamental particles aren't like this classical battery-particle. The real McCoy is a quantum object which, in battery-speak, alternately discharges and recharges completely. Unlike a classical battery which keeps existing even if it is empty, the quantum-battery reappears and disappears at the pace its energy 'swells and fades'. A quantum particle only exists in its action and cannot be distinguished from its effect: for a particle 'to be' is a verb, not a noun, a continuous action rather than a state. This is unlike macroscopic, classical objects, where we can distinguish between an object and its properties, its effects. The discharge in this case is equivalent to, indistinguishable from recharging with an opposite charge, the energy of the particle equal to the frequency of this alternation. The energy it alternately emits and absorbs is absorbed and supplied by every particle within its interaction horizon, so all particles by continuously exchanging 'charge', keep creating and un-creating each other, possibly repeating (to some extent) every phase of their evolution over and over again. This would be a quite effective way of preparing the environment physically for their reappearance, to enforce the laws of physics to apply on the area where they are to reappear. If the indefiniteness in the position of a particle in this context may be regarded as a measure of its dimensions, then in the phase its (rate of change of) energy is minimal, it is everywhere, so it is itself part of the spacetime it is to reappear in, and in doing so, helps preserving (the properties of) spacetime itself.
Regards, Anton
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Feb. 18, 2011 @ 21:08 GMT
Dear Anton
Sorry for my late reply, I been very busy these days. You may call me for my name or surname, it's ok, no problem.
Thank you for your detail explanation. I think I have a wider idea of your mechanism which sounds interesting. I was wondering if you have published your ideas, an if so I would like to see the references to check them in more detail. They can be useful to incorporate in a model. I would really appreciate it.
Kind Regards
Israel
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Marcel-Marie LeBel wrote on Feb. 17, 2011 @ 02:40 GMT
Perez,
Your brain works perfectly and you ask all the right questions. Now, you could be open to the right answers (imho). If so,read and understand my essay. ..If understanding is what you want.... There may be a price for understanding ...
Let know if ... in my thread.
LeBel
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Anonymous replied on Feb. 18, 2011 @ 21:54 GMT
Dear Lebel,
Thank you for your interest in my essay. I would like to be honest and concrete with you, please do not get me wrong and I apologize in advance if I am tough or rude in my writing. I have read your essay which appears very interesting, I can see that we have several points in common, like the laws of logic, but there are some issues that remain obscure to me. You propose time as the primordial substance but I couldn't get a clear idea of what you understand by time. I would like to know your notion of time in few sentences, I would really appreciate it. I could grasp some of your ideas, but some times the provided information is not enough to understand what you mean.Sentences like this: "...requires that all terms be of the same nature i.e no apples and oranges (the Teacher was right!)" leave much to think about it. You should keep in mind that the reader does not have the background that you have and it is not easy to figure out what you are referring to. To understand much of your essay I had to read your previous essay from where these sentences arose. I could see that you have good ideas but I did not understand them at all. May be I am not smart enough to understand them or perhaps you are not smart enough to express yours. This may be the price for understanding.
In due time, I am going to read it once more, and if I have something more to say, I would let you know.
Kind regards
Israel
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Rodney Bartlett wrote on Feb. 19, 2011 @ 03:36 GMT
In a previous post on this page I said "I hope Israel will forgive us for taking over his page sometimes. To which he replied, "It's OK, you can post anything you wish, no problem." Thanks, Israel - so here I go again.
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In a previous post on this page I said "I hope Israel will forgive us for taking over his page sometimes. To which he replied, "It's OK, you can post anything you wish, no problem." Thanks, Israel - so here I go again.
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I have more conclusions derived from my essay, this time regarding General Relativity's mass increase and Lorentz contraction and time dilation. To make things more easily readable (if anybody ever reads this), I'll post most of my conclusions (including today's and those posted on my own page yesterday) in one essay instead of referring readers to different places.
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I fully realise that my entry in FOXY's 2011 essay contest (I have trouble remembering the initials FQXi so I call this website FOXY) doesn’t sound like science at all. I can appreciate that many readers think it belongs to science fiction and fantasy. It does have saving graces though. I’m amazed at how well it fits in with the discoveries of the Microwave Anisotropy Probe and with string theory, culminating in the LHC’s experimentally verified strings and my prediction of negative-energy antistrings. Having said that, I must say this – it’s very strange that the scientific world is so obsessed with mathematics (admittedly, my essay did dabble with it when offering a version of E=mc2 to suit the digital world - but I kept it very simple ... so simple it might be regarded as wrong). Math seems to be regarded as infallible, even though it leads to mistakes. The (partial) mistake I have in mind is string theory. I don't deny that there certainly is value in the theory, and in maths, but logic reveals shortcomings. Let me explain, after first writing a short section describing an unconventional approach to unveiling unification and offering an alternative to the Higgs boson that relies on gravitational waves.
ALTERNATIVE TO HIGGS BOSON
An important step might be to think of "... the grand design of the universe, a single theory that explains everything" (words used by Stephen Hawking on the American version of Amazon, when promoting his latest book “The Grand Design” – coauthored with Leonard Mlodinow, Bantam Books, 2010) in a different way than physicists who are presently working on science's holy grail of unification. The universe’s underlying electronic foundation* (which makes our cosmos into a partially-complete unification, similar to 2 objects which appear billions of years or billions of light-years apart on a huge computer screen actually being unified by the strings of ones and zeros making up the computer code which is all in one small place) would make our cosmos into physics’ holy grail of a complete unification if it enabled not only elimination of all distances in space and time, but also elimination of distance between (and including) the different sides of objects and particles. This last point requires the universe to not merely be a vast collection of the countless photons, electrons and other quantum particles within it; but to be a unified whole that has “particles” and “waves” built into its union of digital 1’s and 0’s (or its union of qubits – quantum binary digits). If we use the example of CGH (computer generated holography, these "particles" and "waves" could be elements produced by the interaction of electromagnetic and presently undiscovered gravitational waves, producing what we know as mass and forming what we know as space-time. Einstein predicted the existence of gravitational waves, and measurements on the Hulse-Taylor binary-star system resulted in Russell Hulse and Joe Taylor being awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1993 for their work, which was the first indirect evidence for gravitational waves. The feedback of the past and future universes into the unified cosmos's electronic foundation would ensure that both past and future could not be altered. Our brains and minds are part of this unification too - which must mean extrasensory perception and telekinetic independence from technology are possible, despite modern science's objections which appear to be based on non-unification.
* For more information on the universe's proposed electronic foundation, please see my article and postings at
http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/814
STRINGS ARE ONLY PART OF MATTER'S BASIS
Space and time only exist in our experience. They are emergent properties, like wetness and mind. We experience wetness because it emerges from the building blocks of the hydrogen and oxygen atoms which make up water. We experience mind because it emerges from the building blocks of neurons composing the brain. And we experience space-time since it emerges from the building blocks making up the universe. These units are a combination of electromagnetic pulses (forming a cosmic computer which includes randomness and thus the potential to escape rigid preprogramming, and have a small degree of free will) as well as a cosmic hologram (this is produced by the interaction of electromagnetic plus gravitational waves and combination of the holographic aspect with the electronic aspect unifies general relativity with quantum physics). Every physical and nonphysical part of the universal hologram would be a receptor for the downloading of data from the cosmic computer which not only exists in the hyperspace of the large-scale universe but also in the hyperspace of each subatomic particle. (In other words, the holographic universe or spacetime we know is a screen for displaying data from the 5th-dimensional computer.)
It might be helpful to visualise time as the playing of a CD or video tape. The entire disc or tape obviously exists all the time. But our physical senses can only perceive a tiny part of the sound and the sights at any fraction of a second. I believe space and time are infinite, so it might be more accurate to visualise time as that HUGE number - in this case, of CDs or tapes - which some versions of string theory propose (10 exponent 500). My essay tells you exactly how to travel to the future, how to return home, and how to travel into our past. Neither future nor past can be altered (a blow to our belief that we have the free will to shape the future) and my explanation of travel to the past requires re-interpretation of the concepts of "multiverse" and "parallel universes". It also requires the ability to travel billions of light years INSTANTLY - no doubt many readers will instantly dismiss the essay because their preconceptions "know" this simply isn't possible. It indeed sounds like pure fantasy, but I outline an approach based on electrical engineering, General Relativity, and Miguel Alcubierre's 1994 proposal of "warp drive" that makes it logically possible.
My essay explains why the universe is a Mobius loop and how it is contained in, or unified with, each of its particles (relying on physical senses or 21st-century scientific instruments would make this statement ridiculous). Then each fermion and boson would also be composed of the 3 spatial dimensions, the 4th dimension of time, and the 5th dimension of hyperspace. Detectors like the Large Hadron Collider would be unable to "see" the time and hyperspace components of particles but could only see the small (maybe 5% of the whole) 3 spatial dimensions (the time component would be what we call dark matter), erroneously assuming particles are those small fractions of a Mobius loop that physics calls strings. "Dark matter" would exert a gravitational influence because time, being part of a curved Mobius loop (whether of quantum or cosmic scale), would push objects together in the same way Einstein's curved space-time pushes objects together. We can speak of the HST now - no, not the Hubble Space Telescope but Hyperspatial SpaceTime. We can visualise the Mobius loop as composed of a hyperspace computer which generates information on how things change from one presently undetectably tiny fraction of a second to the next (we call this time, and it's comparable to the frames in a movie) and transmits the data (transmits dark energy) to the insignificant portion of length, width and depth that makes up subatomic particles ... and the universe.
Preceding the Big Bang (which created this local section of the infinite, eternal universe ... or if you prefer, this subuniverse of the megauniverse) there would have been no space, matter or time in this subuniverse. No transmissions of dark energy (creating time and space/matter) would have occurred - therefore the dark-energy content of the universe would have been zero, increasing to the present 72% as more and more matter was created. How is matter created? Perhaps as cosmologist Alan Guth once suggested -
"You might even be able to start a new universe using energy equivalent to just a few pounds of matter. Provided you could find some way to compress it to a density of about 10^75 (10 exponent 75) grams per cubic centimeter, and provided you could trigger the thing ..."
At the time the Cosmic Microwave Background was emitted (less than a million years after the big bang), results from the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe say the dark-energy content of the universe was negligible. Space/matter has been increasing since the big bang so transmissions from hyperspace computer (dark energy) which create them are increasing while the volume of the Mobius loop occupied by time/hyperspace (dark matter) has been shrinking as a result - according to the WMAP satellite, from 63% when the CMB was emitted to 23% today. Why isn't dark energy increasing at the same rate dark matter is decreasing? It must be because, as stated earlier, both time and hyperspace exert a gravitational influence, thereby mimicking space and matter to a degree. This mimicry causes the dark matter between the start of the CMB and the present to decrease by only about 40% while dark energy increases in the same period by about 70%. If we were dealing with a simple and ordinary loop, this similarity would cause dark matter and dark energy to be more or less equal and if there was any difference in their amount of decrease/increase, it would be in the same direction. But we’re talking about Mobius loops which are like strips of paper that have been twisted 180 degrees before the ends are joined. This causes their variation to go in different directions (one increases, the other decreases) and the amount of variation is quite significant (+72%, -40%). My guess is that the real-life twist occurs in the temporal segment of the loop, enabling a traveller in time to go in different directions i.e. into the future or into the past. To replenish dark matter in billions of years, we merely have to extend Guth's proposal by using the knowledge of that time to create more matter (or by creating more hyperspace which creates more space and more time).
A real-life Mobius is by no means a featureless loop, however. If, contrary to our impressions, the universe is unified with each particle it’s composed of; the WMAP satellite’s findings must apply to the quantum world. The figures 72%, 23% and 5% would not only describe the present universe’s content of dark energy, dark matter and ordinary matter but also any particle’s content of space or ordinary matter (5%), time or dark matter (23% - time is considered to be dark matter here because dark matter is regarded as ordinary matter invisible to us since it’s present in another region of the dimension we call time, just as most of a sphere is in another dimension and consequently appears as a dot when first entering Edwin Abbott’s 1884 exploration of other dimensions called “Flatland”), and hyperspace (72%: the transmissions from the hyperspace computer create space and matter, cause expansion of space on cosmic scales where there are no forces to overcome the expansion as there is in matter, and are known as dark energy – creating more matter causes that matter’s repelling gravity to bring about accelerating expansion).
Look at a picture of a Mobius (thanks to the repeating scales of fractal geometry, the apparently empty interior and exterior of the Mobius universe would actually be the same as the visible loop). Imagine the space/ordinary matter to be situated immediately counterclockwise (perhaps on the bottom of the loop) to the hyperspace segment and the time/dark matter portion to be immediately counterclockwise to the space/ordinary matter (time/dark matter would, moving clockwise, be next to the hyperspace segment).
The hyperspace transmissions flow directly into space/matter (all motion - “flow” and “transmissions” – are actually comparable to individual frames in a movie but are spoken of in everyday terms of motion for convenience, like saying the sun rises and sets) and are responsible for the large and unimpeded 72% increase, since the CMB was emitted, of dark energy. This flow rate of 72% also enters the time/dark matter section adjacent to hyperspace … but the loop’s twist seems to be in the time section. If we were to cut the loop lengthwise with scissors, previously varying the number of half-twists results in things such as two rings linked together or a knotted ring. So we get barriers to motion and blockages. Returning to the normal loop and twist, matters are less drastic and motion is merely slowed, resulting in a 23% flow rate into the space/ordinary matter section.
If we lived in a non-unified universe of materialism, this is how things would remain (dark matter would have increased so today’s content would be a low 23%). On p. 179 of “The Grand Design” by Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow (Bantam Press, 2010) it’s stated
“One requirement any law of nature must satisfy is that it dictates that the energy of an isolated body surrounded by empty space is positive …”
The only problem with that sentence, in an “everything is everywhere and everywhen” universe, is the word isolated. There can be no such thing as isolated in our cosmic-quantum unification. Page 179 also says “… if the energy of an isolated body were negative … there would be no reason that bodies could not appear anywhere and everywhere.” Does this mean you and I (plus all things in time and space) are a union of both positive and negative energy, able to display both separateness/solidity (isolation) as well as the potential to appear anywhere and everywhere? Dark matter, not being entirely positive, would be anywhere and everywhere as well as having decreased so today’s content would be a low 23% (which is what WMAP says is the case).
Acceleration (due to either approaching an appreciable fraction of light’s velocity or experiencing massive gravitation, such as from a black hole) mimics the universe’s expansion, no doubt because matter and space are both made of “space-time bits” i.e. they’re both produced by the binary digits emanating from the hyperspace computer. There would inevitably be mass increase as some of the “dark energy” expanding the universe naturally becomes, according to mass-energy equivalence, particles of matter. More precisely, the increase in dark energy as our subuniverse expands (due to increased transmissions from hyperspace “creating” more space and time) is responsible for the extra particles. There would also be relative length (and volume) contraction since each particle would occupy a smaller proportion of our subuniverse’s length/volume as expansion continues (and accelerates). We’ve seen that spacetime can be twisted into a Mobius strip - picturing spacetime as a length of paper in somebody’s hands, it’d be twisted by applying forces in opposite directions viz. by turning one hand away from the body while simultaneously turning the other hand towards the body. In truth, twisting space-time would be a movie-like “special effect” accomplished by the hyperspatial computer. Though there would be an initial increase in time (as noted earlier in this paragraph), this would only be obvious in the so-called “dark matter” portion of the Mobius. The previous paragraph points out that if we lived in a non-unified universe of materialism, increase of time would be the norm but the twist – affecting all parts of a unified universe - means dark matter (time) decreases by the time it reaches the 5% of the Mobius that is the materialism our physical senses perceive (this “decrease of time” may also be termed “time dilation”).
If everything is a union of positive and negative energy, every matter particle and force-carrying particle would be too. And the strings the Large Hadron Collider might detect (being the parts of particles’ Mobius loops it could see since those parts would be space/ordinary matter) might come in both positive and negative varieties. In 1928 English physicist Paul Dirac (1902-84) proposed that all negative energy states are already occupied by (then hypothetical) antiparticles (particles of antimatter). Building on this results in proposal of strings and antistrings – mathematics has positive and negative quantities, and computers (whether in hyperspace or not) generate maths, causing reality to be both positive and negative; and unconventional cosmologist Max Tegmark is correct when he says mathematical formulas create reality. So when matter and antimatter meet, the positive and negative quantities form zero and neutralise (destroy) each other; and the positive/negative components of everything must avoid direct contact – this separation can either be in space or in time because all things are able to display both separateness/solidity (isolation in space) as well as the potential to appear anywhere and everywhere (in time as well as space). Pauli’s exclusion principle – which was discovered in 1925 and says 2 matter particles cannot have both the same position and the same velocity – does not apply to separation of matter/antimatter since it only applies in an objective, non-unified universe … though programming in the “cosmic computer” does include it as applicable to the reality we perceive since that appears objective to us; and presents separation and solidity to our physical senses and their extensions, scientific instruments.
Building on Mobius loops and negative energy also explains why electrons don’t spiral into the nucleus of the atom when orbiting it like planets around a star would, according to the theories of Newton and Maxwell, cause the electrons to continuously emit electromagnetic radiation and this loss of energy would result in their crashing into the nucleus. As we’ve noted, fractal geometry tells us that what is outside or inside a Mobius loop is the same as the loop itself. So we can visualise an atom as a Mobius loop (the outside could be the universe and the inside could be a subatomic particle – with those two being One because of unification). We can imagine a 72% flow rate into the “dark matter” part of the atomic Mobius becoming not merely a 23% flow into the ordinary matter but, as discussed above, becoming a negative 23% flow. That is, energy is of course radiated - even from those special orbits or stationary states which Danish physicist Niels Bohr (1885-1962) said radiation would not be continuously emitted and wouldn’t contribute to an electron-nucleus collision. But it isn’t energy as we know it. There is no positive radiation emitted – the energy is “less than nothing” i.e. negative - according to the previous paragraph, mathematics has positive and negative quantities, and computers (whether in hyperspace or not) generate maths. Therefore, Bohr was correct to introduce the quantum into the atom and to “quantise” electron orbits – the “quantum jump” or “quantum leap” in which an electron’s transition between orbits or energy levels occurs instantaneously without occupying the space between orbits is also explicable by computers in hyperspace generating mathematics and making electrons disappear from one orbit and instantly reappear in another orbit. Since E=mc2 means energy must contain particles and negative energy must contain antiparticles (e.g. electromagnetic energy is composed of photons), anti-photons are emitted from the electrons which are consequently not radiating energy and do not spiral into the nucleus. In his 1988 book “A Brief History of Time”, Stephen Hawking says on p. 68 that “In the case of the force-carrying particles (like the photon), the antiparticles are the same as the particles themselves.” Thus, the “photons” which are emitted during the quantum leaps of electrons from higher to lower energy levels could actually be antiphotons. (thanks to “QUANTUM: Einstein, Bohr and the Great Debate About the Nature of Reality” by Manjit Kumar – Icon Books, 2008)
My essay tells you how to travel into the future, how to return home, and how to take a trip into our past. Regarding travel beyond our start and into the past ... it can’t be denied that these paragraphs imply the possibility of humans from the distant future time-travelling to the distant past and using electronics to create this particular subuniverse's computer-generated Big Bang. An accomplishment such as this would be the supreme example of “backward causality” (effects influencing causes) promoted by Yakir Aharonov, John Cramer and others. However, realising that we live in a cosmic-quantum unification with zero-separation and recalling Isaac Newton’s inverse-square law and what it says about the force between two particles being infinite (does infinite mean 10 ^ 500, the HUGE number of universes proposed by some versions of string theory?) if the distance of separation goes to zero means there's still room for God (another bit of scientifically objectionable science fiction?) because God would be a pantheistic union of the megauniverse's material and mental parts, forming a union with humans in a cosmic unification.
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Rodney Bartlett wrote on Feb. 21, 2011 @ 10:28 GMT
I found a few inconsistencies and unclear sentences which I corrected this afternoon. I know submissions to FOXY (FQXi) have closed - and anyway, I can only make one - but my curiosity about nature's workings is still alive and well. This article addresses Einstein's Relativities (GR + SR), Bohr's Atomic Model, Dark Matter, Dark Energy, Negative Energy And Modern String Theory/Unification In The...
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I found a few inconsistencies and unclear sentences which I corrected this afternoon. I know submissions to FOXY (FQXi) have closed - and anyway, I can only make one - but my curiosity about nature's workings is still alive and well. This article addresses Einstein's Relativities (GR + SR), Bohr's Atomic Model, Dark Matter, Dark Energy, Negative Energy And Modern String Theory/Unification In The Light Of The Concept of an Electronic and Holographic Universe Shaped Like A Mobius Loop. It has its beginnings in cellular automata (in mathematics and computer science, collections of cells on a grid that evolve through a number of discrete time steps according to a set of rules based on the states of neighbouring cells) and grew into a belief that the universe (electromagnetism, gravitation, space-time and, as we’ll see, 5th dimensional hyperspace) has a digital (electronic) foundation. I’m amazed at how well it fits in with the discoveries of the Microwave Anisotropy Probe and with string theory, culminating in the LHC’s possible verification of strings. It begins with a short section describing an unconventional approach to unveiling unification and offering an alternative to the Higgs boson that relies on gravitational waves.
ALTERNATIVE TO HIGGS BOSON
An important step might be to think of "... the grand design of the universe, a single theory that explains everything" (words used by Stephen Hawking on the American version of Amazon, when promoting his latest book “The Grand Design” – coauthored with Leonard Mlodinow, Bantam Books, 2010) in a different way than physicists who are presently working on science's holy grail of unification. The universe’s underlying electronic foundation (which makes our cosmos into a partially-complete unification, similar to 2 objects which appear billions of years or billions of light-years apart on a huge computer screen actually being unified by the strings of ones and zeros making up the computer code which is all in one small place) would make our cosmos into physics’ holy grail of a complete unification if it enabled not only elimination of all distances in space and time, but also elimination of distance between (and including) the different sides of objects and particles. This last point requires the universe to not merely be a vast collection of the countless photons, electrons and other quantum particles within it; but to be a unified whole that has “particles” and “waves” built into its union of digital 1’s and 0’s (or its union of qubits – quantum binary digits). If we use the example of CGH (computer generated holography, these "particles" and "waves" could be elements produced by the interaction of electromagnetic and presently undiscovered gravitational waves, producing what we know as mass and forming what we know as space-time. Einstein predicted the existence of gravitational waves, and measurements on the Hulse-Taylor binary-star system resulted in Russell Hulse and Joe Taylor being awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1993 for their work, which was the first indirect evidence for gravitational waves. The feedback of the past and future universes into the unified cosmos's electronic foundation would ensure that both past and future could not be altered. Our brains and minds are part of this unification too - which must mean extrasensory perception and telekinetic independence from technology are possible, despite modern science's objections which appear to be based on non-unification.
STRINGS ARE ONLY PART OF MATTER'S BASIS
Space and time only exist in our experience. They are emergent properties, like wetness and mind. We experience wetness because it emerges from the building blocks of the hydrogen and oxygen atoms which make up water. We experience mind because it emerges from the building blocks of neurons composing the brain. And we experience space-time since it emerges from the building blocks making up the universe. These units are a combination of electromagnetic pulses (forming a cosmic computer which includes randomness and thus the potential to escape rigid preprogramming, and have a small degree of free will) as well as a cosmic hologram (this is produced by the interaction of electromagnetic plus gravitational waves and combination of the holographic aspect with the electronic aspect unifies general relativity with quantum physics). Every physical and nonphysical part of the universal hologram would be a receptor for the downloading of data from the cosmic computer which not only exists in the hyperspace of the large-scale universe but also in the hyperspace of each subatomic particle. (In other words, the holographic universe or spacetime we know is a screen for displaying data from the 5th-dimensional computer.)
It might be helpful to visualise time as the playing of a CD or video tape. The entire disc or tape obviously exists all the time. But our physical senses can only perceive a tiny part of the sound and the sights at any fraction of a second. I believe space and time are infinite, so it might be more accurate to visualise time as that HUGE number - in this case, of CDs or tapes - which some versions of string theory propose (10 exponent 500). My essay tells you exactly how to travel to the future, how to return home, and how to travel into our past. Neither future nor past can be altered (a blow to our belief that we have the free will to shape the future) and my explanation of travel to the past requires re-interpretation of the concepts of "multiverse" and "parallel universes". It also requires the ability to travel billions of light years INSTANTLY - no doubt many readers will instantly dismiss the essay because their preconceptions "know" this simply isn't possible. It indeed sounds like pure fantasy, but I outline an approach based on electrical engineering, General Relativity, and Miguel Alcubierre's 1994 proposal of "warp drive" that makes it logically possible.
My essay explains why the universe is a Mobius loop and how it is contained in, or unified with, each of its particles (relying on physical senses or 21st-century scientific instruments would make this statement ridiculous). Then each fermion and boson would also be composed of the 3 spatial dimensions, the 4th dimension of time, and the 5th dimension of hyperspace. Detectors like the Large Hadron Collider would be unable to "see" the time and hyperspace components of particles but could only see the small (maybe 5% of the whole) 3 spatial dimensions (the time component would be what we call dark matter), erroneously assuming particles are those small fractions of a Mobius loop that physics calls strings. "Dark matter" would exert a gravitational influence because time, being part of a curved Mobius loop (whether of quantum or cosmic scale), would push objects together in the same way Einstein's curved space-time pushes objects together. We can speak of the HST now - no, not the Hubble Space Telescope but Hyperspatial SpaceTime. We can visualise the Mobius loop as composed of a hyperspace computer which generates information on how things change from one presently undetectably tiny fraction of a second to the next (we call this time, and it's comparable to the frames in a movie) and transmits the data (transmits dark energy) to the insignificant portion of length, width and depth that makes up subatomic particles ... and the universe.
Preceding the Big Bang (which created this local section of the infinite, eternal universe ... or if you prefer, this subuniverse of the megauniverse) there would have been no space, matter or time in this subuniverse. No transmissions of dark energy (creating time and space/matter) would have occurred - therefore the dark-energy content of the universe would have been zero, increasing to the present 72% as more and more matter was created. How is matter created? Perhaps as cosmologist Alan Guth once suggested -
"You might even be able to start a new universe using energy equivalent to just a few pounds of matter. Provided you could find some way to compress it to a density of about 10^75 (10 exponent 75) grams per cubic centimeter, and provided you could trigger the thing ..."
At the time the Cosmic Microwave Background was emitted (less than a million years after the big bang), results from the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe say the dark-energy content of the universe was negligible. Space/matter has been increasing since the big bang so transmissions from the hyperspace computer (dark energy) which create them are increasing. Time is also created by hyperspace and is thus also increasing but (see the next 3 paragraphs) the amount of time being transmitted to our material 5% of the universe is decreasing - according to the WMAP satellite, dark matter has reduced from 63% when the CMB was emitted to 23% today. Why isn't dark energy increasing at the same rate dark matter is decreasing? It must be because, as stated earlier, both time and hyperspace exert a gravitational influence, thereby mimicking space and matter to a degree. This mimicry causes the dark matter between the start of the CMB and the present to decrease by only about 40% while dark energy increases in the same period by about 70%. If we were dealing with a simple and ordinary loop, this similarity would cause dark matter and dark energy to be more or less equal and if there was any difference in their amount of decrease/increase, it would be in the same direction. But we’re talking about Mobius loops which are like strips of paper that have been twisted 180 degrees before the ends are joined. This causes their variation to go in different directions (one increases, the other decreases) and the amount of variation is quite significant (+72%, -40%). My guess is that the real-life twist occurs in the temporal segment of the loop, enabling a traveller in time to go in different directions i.e. into the future or into the past. To replenish dark matter in billions of years, we merely have to extend Guth's proposal by using the knowledge of that future time to create more hyperspace (with its associated extra space, extra matter and extra time).
A real-life Mobius is by no means a featureless loop, however. If, contrary to our impressions, the universe is unified with each particle it’s composed of; the WMAP satellite’s findings must apply to the quantum world. The figures 72%, 23% and 5% would not only describe the present universe’s content of dark energy, dark matter and ordinary matter but also any particle’s content of space or ordinary matter (5%), time or dark matter (23% - time is considered to be dark matter here because dark matter is regarded as ordinary matter invisible to us since it’s present in another region of the dimension we call time, just as most of a sphere is in another dimension and consequently appears as a dot when first entering Edwin Abbott’s 1884 exploration of other dimensions called “Flatland”), and hyperspace (72%: the transmissions from the hyperspace computer create space and matter, cause expansion of space on cosmic scales where there are no forces to overcome the expansion as there is in matter, and are known as dark energy – creating more matter causes that matter’s repelling gravity to bring about accelerating expansion).
Look at a picture of a Mobius (thanks to the repeating scales of fractal geometry, the apparently empty interior and exterior of the Mobius universe would actually be the same as the visible loop). Imagine the space/ordinary matter to be situated immediately counterclockwise (perhaps on the bottom of the loop) to the hyperspace segment and the time/dark matter portion to be immediately counterclockwise to the space/ordinary matter (time/dark matter would, moving clockwise, be next to the hyperspace segment).
The hyperspace transmissions flow directly into space/matter (all motion - “flow” and “transmissions” – are actually comparable to individual frames in a movie but are spoken of in everyday terms of motion for convenience, like saying the sun rises and sets) and are responsible for the large and unimpeded 72% increase, since the CMB was emitted, of dark energy. This flow rate of 72% also enters the time/dark matter section adjacent to hyperspace … but the loop’s twist seems to be in the time section. If we were to cut the loop lengthwise with scissors, previously varying the number of half-twists results in things such as two rings linked together or a knotted ring. So we get barriers to motion and blockages. Returning to the normal loop and twist, matters are less drastic and motion is merely slowed, resulting in a 23% flow rate into the space/ordinary matter section.
If we lived in a non-unified universe of materialism, this is how things would remain (dark matter would have increased so today’s content would be a low 23%). On p. 179 of “The Grand Design” by Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow (Bantam Press, 2010) it’s stated
“One requirement any law of nature must satisfy is that it dictates that the energy of an isolated body surrounded by empty space is positive …”
The only problem with that sentence, in an “everything is everywhere and everywhen” universe, is the word isolated. There can be no such thing as isolated in our cosmic-quantum unification. Page 179 also says “… if the energy of an isolated body were negative … there would be no reason that bodies could not appear anywhere and everywhere.” Does this mean you and I (plus all things in time and space) are a union of both positive and negative energy, able to display both separateness/solidity (isolation) as well as the potential to appear anywhere and everywhere? Dark matter, not being entirely positive, would be anywhere and everywhere as well as having decreased so today’s content would be a low 23% (which is what WMAP says is the case).
Acceleration (due to either approaching an appreciable fraction of light’s velocity or experiencing massive gravitation, such as from a black hole) mimics the universe’s expansion, no doubt because matter and space are both made of “space-time bits” i.e. they’re both produced by the binary digits emanating from the hyperspace computer. There would inevitably be mass increase as some of the “dark energy” expanding the universe naturally becomes, according to mass-energy equivalence, particles of matter. More precisely, the increase in dark energy as our subuniverse expands (due to increased transmissions from hyperspace “creating” more space and time) is responsible for the extra particles. There would also be relative length (and volume) contraction since each particle would occupy a smaller proportion of our subuniverse’s length/volume as expansion continues (and accelerates). We’ve seen that spacetime can be twisted into a Mobius strip - picturing spacetime as a length of paper in somebody’s hands, it’d be twisted by applying forces in opposite directions viz. by turning one hand away from the body while simultaneously turning the other hand towards the body. In truth, twisting space-time would be a movie-like “special effect” accomplished by the hyperspatial computer. Though there would be an initial increase in time (as noted earlier in this paragraph), this would only be obvious in the so-called “dark matter” portion of the Mobius. The previous paragraph points out that if we lived in a non-unified universe of materialism, increase of time would be the norm but the twist – affecting all parts of a unified universe - means dark matter (time) decreases by the time it reaches the 5% of the Mobius that is the materialism our physical senses perceive (this “decrease of time” may also be termed “time dilation”).
If everything is a union of positive and negative energy, every matter particle and force-carrying particle would be too. And the strings the Large Hadron Collider might detect (being the parts of particles’ Mobius loops it could see since those parts would be space/ordinary matter) might come in both positive and negative varieties. In 1928 English physicist Paul Dirac (1902-84) proposed that all negative energy states are already occupied by (then hypothetical) antiparticles (particles of antimatter). Building on this results in proposal of strings and antistrings – mathematics has positive and negative quantities, and computers (whether in hyperspace or not) generate maths, causing reality to be both positive and negative; and unconventional cosmologist Max Tegmark is correct when he says mathematical formulas create reality. So when matter and antimatter meet, the positive and negative quantities form zero and neutralise (destroy) each other; and the positive/negative components of everything must avoid direct contact – this separation can either be in space or in time because all things are able to display both separateness/solidity (isolation in space) as well as the potential to appear anywhere and everywhere (in time as well as space). Pauli’s exclusion principle – which was discovered in 1925 and says 2 matter particles cannot have both the same position and the same velocity – does not apply to separation of matter/antimatter since it only applies in an objective, non-unified universe … though programming in the “cosmic computer” does include it as applicable to the reality we perceive since that appears objective to us; and presents separation and solidity to our physical senses and their extensions, scientific instruments.
Building on Mobius loops and negative energy also explains why electrons don’t spiral into the nucleus of the atom when orbiting it like planets around a star would, according to the theories of Newton and Maxwell, cause the electrons to continuously emit electromagnetic radiation and this loss of energy would result in their crashing into the nucleus. As we’ve noted, fractal geometry tells us that what is outside or inside a Mobius loop is the same as the loop itself. So we can visualise an atom as a Mobius loop (the outside could be the universe and the inside could be a subatomic particle – with those two being One because of unification). We can imagine a 72% flow rate into the “dark matter” part of the atomic Mobius becoming not merely a 23% flow into the ordinary matter but becoming a negative 23% flow (the variation in different directions caused by the twist need not be an increase and decrease of positive energy but may be the radiation of negative and positive energy). That is, energy is of course radiated – into atoms and from those special orbits or stationary states which Danish physicist Niels Bohr (1885-1962) said radiation would not be continuously emitted, and wouldn’t contribute to an electron-nucleus collision. But it isn’t energy as we know it. There is no exclusively positive radiation emitted – the energy is predominantly “less than nothing” i.e. negative - according to the previous paragraph, mathematics has positive and negative quantities, and computers (whether in hyperspace or not) generate maths. Therefore, Bohr was correct to introduce the quantum into the atom and to “quantise” electron orbits – the “quantum jump” or “quantum leap” in which an electron’s transition between orbits or energy levels occurs instantaneously without occupying the space between orbits is also explicable by computers in hyperspace generating mathematics and making electrons disappear from one orbit and instantly reappear in another orbit. Since E=mc2 means energy must contain particles and negative energy must contain antiparticles (e.g. electromagnetic energy is composed of photons), anti-photons are emitted from the electrons which are consequently not radiating energy and do not spiral into the nucleus. In his 1988 book “A Brief History of Time”, Stephen Hawking says on p. 68 that “In the case of the force-carrying particles (like the photon), the antiparticles are the same as the particles themselves.” Thus, the “photons” which are emitted during the quantum leaps of electrons from higher to lower energy levels could actually be antiphotons. (thanks to “QUANTUM: Einstein, Bohr and the Great Debate About the Nature of Reality” by Manjit Kumar – Icon Books, 2008 for inspiring these thoughts)
My essay "Humans and their Universes" tells you how to travel into the future, how to return home, and how to take a trip into our past. Regarding travel beyond our start and into the past ... it can’t be denied that these paragraphs imply the possibility of humans from the distant future time-travelling to the distant past and using electronics to create this particular subuniverse's computer-generated Big Bang. An accomplishment such as this would be the supreme example of “backward causality” (effects influencing causes) promoted by Yakir Aharonov, John Cramer and others. However, realising that we live in a cosmic-quantum unification with zero-separation and recalling Isaac Newton’s inverse-square law and what it says about the force between two particles being infinite (does infinite mean 10 ^ 500, the HUGE number of universes proposed by some versions of string theory?) if the distance of separation goes to zero means there's still room for God (another bit of scientifically objectionable science fiction?) because God would be a pantheistic union of the megauniverse's material and mental parts, forming a union with humans in a cosmic unification.
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Georgina Parry wrote on Feb. 28, 2011 @ 01:01 GMT
Dear Israel ,
I wanted to let you know that I have read your essay. It is very clearly written, presented and easy to follow your thinking. This kind of philosophical consideration of scientific ideas is useful. You are right that such ideas do need careful consideration. You were brave to approach the essay in this way as there are some physicists who regard philosophy as irrelevant.
We are in agreement that space is not empty and that there is continuous change, giving passage of time. We can not know the composition of the "medium" of space at all. As it is entirely inert and provides no information by which it can be known. I would not have used the term matter as I understand matter to be composed of atoms or particles.
You are discussing many important foundational issues. So its content is also relevant. Thank you for directing my attention to your essay.
Good luck. Georgina.
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Feb. 28, 2011 @ 21:02 GMT
Dear Georgina
Thank you for your comments, I appreciate them. From the philosophy of materialism you will see that matter is assumed to be the only substance that constitutes the universe. But from the point of view of contemporary physics, the universe is made up of matter, fields, space and time. This is why one should have a clear meaning of these concepts, and this is why the meaning of reality is sometimes subjective. I think that philosophy is very important even more than people commonly believe and it should recover its high status in science. Doing physics in the old way could be useful to address some of the fundamental puzzles that we have today.
I wish you the best in the contest. I hope we can keep in touch beyond this forum.
Good Luck
Israel
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Paul Halpern wrote on Mar. 13, 2011 @ 18:24 GMT
Dear Israel,
Your interesting essay offers an important call for physicists to examine their suppositions in a rigorous manner. It provides a valuable way for thinkers to revisit the underlying assumptions of cosmology. Very well organized and presented!
Best wishes,
Paul
Paul Halpern,
The Discreet Charm of the Discrete
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Mar. 14, 2011 @ 20:33 GMT
Dear Paul
Thank you for your interest in my essay. I have devoted some years to deeply study those fundamental concepts. In this process I have realized that most physicists grant more scientific value to the physical laws than the concepts and the meaning of the quantities involved in those laws, say, time, field, mass, space, etc. And I understand that this has to be so because physics is not only a factual science but also a pragmatic one. Thus any idea (metaphysical or not), like the multiverse or 11 or 26 dimensions, that may help to solve our puzzles is well welcome in this science. But sometimes, it seems to me, these ideas are so bizarre that make no sense in real life. And even more, instead of permitting the advance of science they become an obstruction, a cloud that does not allow us to see the problems with clarity. This is why I started to rethink our fundamental conceptions of the world in order to understand what the laws of physics are really saying. I hope that pragmatic physicists consider my ideas more seriously.
I will take a look of your essay which appears to be interesting. If I have something I would let you know. Thank you for pointing my attention to your work. Good luck in the contest
Kind Regards
Israel
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Steve Dufourny replied on Mar. 18, 2011 @ 15:28 GMT
Hi to both of you,
Indeed dear Israel, it is bizare this lack of rationalism and the lack of objectivity. You know I think it's just a play of maths or for a kind of confusions or a kind of business sometimes,I don't know it's sad for rationalists, these things named sciences are irrational and irrealistic. So many illogisms.Bizare is a weak word .
Good luck to both of you
Steve
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Mar. 21, 2011 @ 20:25 GMT
Dear Steve
I am sorry for my late reply. Thank you for your comments, I agree with your view, bizarre may be a weak word. Indeed, I think that science is just a human activity like any other, you may see it as a business or as a religion, or anything you like.
In physics, any model of "reality" (no matter how irrational or illogical is) so long as it approximately matches with experience (measurement) would be adopted. But who decides whether this model is accepted or not? You?, me?, the community of scientists? If the community decides then, from among the community, who is going to decide what theory is the best? Who has decided, in the last years, that string theory is the ultimate theory?
Good questions to be answered.
Good luck too
Israel
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basudeba wrote on Mar. 20, 2011 @ 06:20 GMT
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Sir,
We had filed a complaint to FQXi and Scienticfic American regarding Possibility of manipulation in judging criteria and giving some suggestions for improvement. Acopy of our letter is enclosed for your kind information.
“We are a non-professional and non-academic entrant to the Essay...
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Sub: Possibility of manipulation in judging criteria – suggestions for improvement.
Sir,
We had filed a complaint to FQXi and Scienticfic American regarding Possibility of manipulation in judging criteria and giving some suggestions for improvement. Acopy of our letter is enclosed for your kind information.
“We are a non-professional and non-academic entrant to the Essay contest “Is Reality Digital or Analog”. Our Essay under the same name was published on 29-12-2010. We were associated with Academic Administration as a part of our profession before retirement. From our experience, we were concerned about the problems and directions of current science. One example is the extended run and up-gradation given to LHC, (which was set up to finally prove that Standard Model and SUSY were wrong), even when Tevatron is closing down. Thus, after retirement, we were more focused on foundational works addressing, in one of its many facets, our understanding of the deep or “ultimate” nature of reality.
Specifically we were concerned about the blind acceptance of the so-called “established theories” due to the rush for immediate and easy recognition even on the face of contradictions raising questions on the very theories. One example is the questions being raised on the current theories of gravitation after the discovery of Pioneer anomaly. While most students know about MOND, they are not aware of the Pioneer anomaly. Most of the finalists of this contest have either not addressed or insufficiently addressed this question. We hold that gravity is a composite force that stabilizes. This way we can not only explain the Pioneer anomaly and the deflection of the Voyager space-craft, but also the Fly-by anomalies.
Similarly, we were concerned about the blind acceptance of some concepts, such as inertial mass increase, gravitational waves, Higg’s boson, strings, extra-dimensions, etc. Some of these are either non-existent or wrongly explained. For example, we have given a different explanation for ten spatial dimensions. Similarly, we have explained the charge interactions differently from the Coulomb’s law. We have defined time, space, number and infinity etc., differently and derived all out formulae from fundamental principles. There are much more, which we had discussed under various threads under different Essays. We are the only entrant who defined “reality” and all other technical terms precisely and strictly used this definition throughout our discussion.
Though our essay was on foundational concepts and we derived everything from fundamental principles, it was basically alternative physics. Moreover, we are not known in scientific circles because we did not publish our work earlier. Hence it is surprising that even we got a community rating of 3.0 and (12 ratings) and Public Rating of 2.5 (2 ratings). We have no complaints in this regard. However, we have serious reservations about the manner in which the finalists were chosen.
A set of thirty-five finalists (the “Finalists”) have been chosen based on the essays with the top Community ratings that have each received at least ten ratings. The FQXi Members and approved Contest entrants rate the essays as “Community evaluators”. Since many of the FQXi Members are also approved Contest entrants, this effectively makes the contestant as the judge for selection of the finalists. This process not only goes against the foundational goals of the Contest, but also leaves itself open for manipulation.
Most contestants are followers of what they call as “mainstream physics”. Thus, they will not be open to encourage revolutionary new ideas because it goes against their personal beliefs either fully (like our essay) or partially (like many other essays that did not find place in the final list. One example is Ms Georgina Parry. There are many more.) The prime reason for such behavior is cultural bias and basic selfish instinct of human beings. Thus, truly foundational essays will be left out of the final list.
In support of the above, we give a few examples. While there are some really deserving contestants like Mr. Julian Barbour, who really deserve placement in the final listing, the same cannot be said for many others. Mr. Daniele Oriti, who tops the list of finalists, says that whether reality is digital or analog “refers, at least implicitly, to the ‘ultimate’ nature of reality, the fundamental layer.” He admits that “I do not know what this could mean, nor I am at ease with thinking in these terms.” Then how could he discuss the issue scientifically? Science is not about beliefs or suppositions. His entire essay exhibits his beliefs and suppositions that are far from scientific descriptions. He admits it when he talks about “speculative scenario”. Yet, his essay has been rated as number one by the Community.
The correspondence between us and Mr. Efthimios Harokopos under his Essay and our comments under the various top ranking finalists show the same pattern. One example is Mr. Paul Halpern. We have raised some fundamental questions under the essay of Mr. Hector Zenil. If the answers to these questions are given, most of the finalists will be rejected. If the idea is to find out the answers to these questions, then also most of the finalists will be rejected.
The public that read and rated the essays are not just laymen, but intelligent persons following the developments of science. Their views cannot be ignored lightly. Mr. Daniele Oriti, who tops the list of finalists as per community rating, occupies 35th place in public rating. Mr, Tejinder Singth, who is 7th among the list of finalists as per community rating, occupies 25th place in public rating. If public rating is so erroneous, it should be abolished.
Secondly, the author and interested readers (including FQXi Members, other contest entrants, and the general public) are invited to discuss and comment on the essay. Here personal relationship and lobbying plays an important role. An analysis of the correspondence between various contestants will show that there was hectic lobbying for mutual rating. For example: Eckard Blumschein (Finalist Sl. No. 15) had written on Mar. 15, 2011 to Mr. Ian Durham (Finalist Sl. No. 3) “Since you did not yet answered my question you give me an excuse for not yet voting for you.” There are many such examples of open lobbying. One of the first entrants visited most contestants and lobbied for reading his essay. Thus, not only he has received the highest number of posts under his Essay, but has emerged as one of top contenders.
The above statement gets further strengthened if we look at the voting pattern. More than 100 essays were submitted between Feb.1-15. Of these 21 out of 35 are the finalists. Of these the essays of 14 contestants were published in 5 days between Feb. 14-18. Is it a mere coincidence? For some contestants, maximum rating took place on the last day. For example, on the last date alone, Mr. Paul Halpern rose from 14th place to 5th place, Mr. Donatello Dolce rose from 35th place to 14th place, and Mr. Christian Stoica came into the top 35. All these cannot be coincidental.
Thirdly, no person is allowed to submit more than one essay to the Contest, regardless if he or she is entering individually or as part of a collaborative essay. Yet, we suspect that some have indulged in such activities. For example, we commented below the essay of one contestant on March 4. We got a reply from the next contestant the same day. The correspondence continued. The original contender has not replied to us. In fact he has only replied twice in 20 posts. This is surprising.
In view of the above, we request you to kindly review your judging process and forward all essays to an independent screening committee (to which no contestant or their relatives will be empanelled), who will reject the essays that are not up to the mark and select the other essays without any strict restriction on numbers to the final judges panel. This will eliminate the problems and possibilities discussed by us. This will also have the benefit of a two tier independent evaluation.
Our sole motive for writing this letter is to improve the quality of competition. Hence it should be viewed from the same light”.
Regards,
Basudeba.
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Author Israel Omar Perez replied on Mar. 21, 2011 @ 21:41 GMT
Dear Basubeda
I think that both most of the contestants and the organizing committee are aware that the evaluation process is neither fair nor the most appropriate. The low ratings that we all got clearly shows this.
I was once a judge in a similar contest. All essays were "peer-reviewed" by a set of expert judges; from my view, in order to be fair, this is what I would suggest to do for the evaluation process.
Israel
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Sridattadev wrote on Mar. 22, 2011 @ 20:49 GMT
Dear Israel,
I have read your essay and agree to your point of absolute universe.
I have conveyed similar thoughts in "Theory of everything" that I submitted in this contest and I hope you will have a chance to review it.
Conscience is the cosmological constant. Love,
Sridattadev.
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